I was wondering if anyone has tried using a Rocktron Midi Raider as a controller with capability of Hybrid mode (Stomp/ Scene). Is it possible to assign the switches on the Rocktron to do so? I have way more than 4 effects in my chain and I would love be able to utilize all the switches on the Midi Raider (15 switches). Any info would be greatly appreciated.
I feel like you won’t really be able to utilize all the switches on your midi controller if you’re looking to make an expanded hybrid mode. Someone may be able to chime in, but you’ll maybe be able to do 8 effects and 4 scenes max(?). Using an outside midi footswitch doesn’t really give access to every footswitch option for scenes and stomps atm
Thank you for the info. I’ve always had pedal boards with the freedom of switching effects on and off. The type of setup I would love to use is hybrid with the QC, but with more control of the effects, not just limited to 4 or 8 switches/effects.
I use a behringer fcb1010… Can get 8 stomps on and of and 8 scenes within every preset also tuner on off switch between stomp scene and preset mode… Gig view and presets up and down and tap tempo wah volume etc… to be honest hasn’t giving me any headaches yet except when I was learning how to get it all working…
I’m very happy with it
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But you can’t have all 8 stomps and 8 scenes at once, right? You’re switching between the modes I think?
Yes that’s correct… Just like you do on the quad itself. But that’s a one button tap each stomp allows 2 functions… So say switch 5 one tap stomp next tap scenes… I haven’t set mine that way I’ve set bank one on the Fcb as stomp mode and bank 2 as scenes cause that’s the way I like and the other 8 are 8 banks with 8 presets in each bank
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That stuff should be clear to people posting on here, so they don’t think the QC works the same way as other modelers with midi. Most people don’t want to deal with extra stuff like that (me included). Really wish Neural would fix the super limited midi.
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Well I think most people are being OTT about this…one press of a button to get into scene mode another press to get back to stomp mode… I think they need to get over it really it sounds like a spoilt baby giving out he has to pick up his toy again … That’s just my opinion…
If they do there homework it’s self explanatory I knew that was the case b4 I bought it
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Unfortunately it isn’t very clear for people coming to the QC. I did a lot of research on the QC before getting it (and used midi a lot with Helix) but didn’t realize how limited the midi is. I’ve also seen lots of people post online asking about programming the midi for QC, and being surprised they can’t program it similar to basically any other modeler out.
Hopefully they’ll improve the midi. Feels weird that much cheaper modelers (especially with companies who aren’t as forward thinking as Neural) can have full midi functionality.
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Ye I guess everyone has there own opinions… It works well for me I’ve got all the same functions on my midi floorboard 8 scenes stomps hybrid and presets…and all the other functions tuner wah volume tap tempo… I’m unsure what else they need but that is me
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What is it that QC doesn’t do that you need it to do… Just curious
Momentary switching, and being able to program scenes + stomps freely with a midi footswitch. Basically have free range to assign a stomp to a switch on a midi controller, and have my scenes on the QC or midi footswitch. I don’t want a weird workaround to trick the QC into different modes.
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Maybe I’m stupid… But I can assign any stomp to whatever footswitch I want.
I don’t feel there’s a work around I can use scenes and assign whatever footswitch I want choose?
The berry has banks so I can mix match whatever way I want things to work…I can program the Fcb 1010 to what I want aswell so each bank can be what I want it to be… But I will say the way neural have it set up ABCDFEGH seems very simple and logical
The Midi Raider has 15 switches. I want to dedicate 5 for scenes. Each scene will have different amps but all will have the same amount of effects. (10 different effects) which will be dedicated to the remaining 10 switches. I know the QC has 8 switches and correct me if I’m wrong, Hybrid mode will dedicate 1 row for scene and 1 row for stomp (8 switches in total) .
You will need to program it for the way you want it to work… I’m happy with 8+8 but if you just want 5 for scenes? program the raider for that…you mite not get 10 stomps going but you will get 8…but the 2 remaining switches could be set for tuner or tap tempo or going up and down presets
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You can have 8+8 so 8stomps and 8 scenes… And you have 4 buttons left…1 button can switch between stomp and scenes…3 other buttons can be used for something else
Maybe I should have mentioned that the Midi Raider would be the sole controller of the QC. The QC will be on the speaker cabinet, not accessible.
Your 8+8 setup, do have the QC set to 8 Stomp Effects and the Behringer fcb1010 set to 8 scene changes? Hybrid Mode?
No I’m using the fcb for 8 scenes and 8 stomps… And one switch to change between them on the berry
I use the Fcb for everything I don’t need to touch the the cortex for any switching… That I need
Stomp preset and scene mode. Tuner wah volume tap tempo for me I’ve no complaints
Hello, thank you for reaching out.
I do not believe you can do exactly as you are planning, but you could:
Assign 8 footswitches to engage the A to H footswitches on Quad Cortex. This way, in Stomp mode, you can engage and disengage effects you assign to said footswitches. (MIDI CC #35 to #42)
Assign any number of footswitches on your controller to send PC messages to recall specific presets.
Assign up to eight footswitches on your controller to send MIDI CC Message #43 values 0 to 7 , to recall specific scenes on your active preset.
You can learn more about Incoming MIDI messages on QC from page 87 and onwards on the Quad Cortex User Manual
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Well, it is what it is. A REMOTE 15 button footswitch is not going to work the way I need it to.
Thank you all for your help.