I was wondering if anyone has tried using a Rocktron Midi Raider as a controller with capability of Hybrid mode (Stomp/ Scene). Is it possible to assign the switches on the Rocktron to do so? I have way more than 4 effects in my chain and I would love be able to utilize all the switches on the Midi Raider (15 switches). Any info would be greatly appreciated.
I feel like you won’t really be able to utilize all the switches on your midi controller if you’re looking to make an expanded hybrid mode. Someone may be able to chime in, but you’ll maybe be able to do 8 effects and 4 scenes max(?). Using an outside midi footswitch doesn’t really give access to every footswitch option for scenes and stomps atm
Thank you for the info. I’ve always had pedal boards with the freedom of switching effects on and off. The type of setup I would love to use is hybrid with the QC, but with more control of the effects, not just limited to 4 or 8 switches/effects.
But you can’t have all 8 stomps and 8 scenes at once, right? You’re switching between the modes I think?
That stuff should be clear to people posting on here, so they don’t think the QC works the same way as other modelers with midi. Most people don’t want to deal with extra stuff like that (me included). Really wish Neural would fix the super limited midi.
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Unfortunately it isn’t very clear for people coming to the QC. I did a lot of research on the QC before getting it (and used midi a lot with Helix) but didn’t realize how limited the midi is. I’ve also seen lots of people post online asking about programming the midi for QC, and being surprised they can’t program it similar to basically any other modeler out.
Hopefully they’ll improve the midi. Feels weird that much cheaper modelers (especially with companies who aren’t as forward thinking as Neural) can have full midi functionality.
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Momentary switching, and being able to program scenes + stomps freely with a midi footswitch. Basically have free range to assign a stomp to a switch on a midi controller, and have my scenes on the QC or midi footswitch. I don’t want a weird workaround to trick the QC into different modes.
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The Midi Raider has 15 switches. I want to dedicate 5 for scenes. Each scene will have different amps but all will have the same amount of effects. (10 different effects) which will be dedicated to the remaining 10 switches. I know the QC has 8 switches and correct me if I’m wrong, Hybrid mode will dedicate 1 row for scene and 1 row for stomp (8 switches in total) .
Maybe I should have mentioned that the Midi Raider would be the sole controller of the QC. The QC will be on the speaker cabinet, not accessible.
Your 8+8 setup, do have the QC set to 8 Stomp Effects and the Behringer fcb1010 set to 8 scene changes? Hybrid Mode?
Hello, thank you for reaching out.
I do not believe you can do exactly as you are planning, but you could:
Assign 8 footswitches to engage the A to H footswitches on Quad Cortex. This way, in Stomp mode, you can engage and disengage effects you assign to said footswitches. (MIDI CC #35 to #42)
Assign any number of footswitches on your controller to send PC messages to recall specific presets.
Assign up to eight footswitches on your controller to send MIDI CC Message #43 values 0 to 7 , to recall specific scenes on your active preset.
You can learn more about Incoming MIDI messages on QC from page 87 and onwards on the Quad Cortex User Manual
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This is straight from Neural DSP.
Well, it is what it is. A REMOTE 15 button footswitch is not going to work the way I need it to.
Thank you all for your help.
Pass on that. Fracl@l gave me a response that suits my needs. The B floor board may work for your needs, but not mine. I play a lot of gigs a week that requires a variety of sounds and control. The QC is not there in regards to control.
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Talk to you guys in 5 years lol
I’m still confused. What was the problem again?
If I’m not totally wrong, we can control 8 stomps and 8 scenes by MIDI, right?
What am I missing?
Really not trying to argue just want to understand…
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Ah maybe it’s that the OP wanted to have 10 stomps and 5 scenes?
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And sorry, really only curious:
You can have 5 different amps and 10 footswitches in one preset on a Fractal unit?
I thought it’s one amp only for FM3 and two amps for FM9.
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You hit the nail on the head
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I’ve read the manual, quite extensively. Have I been pulling Quad Cortex terms (Hybrid, Stomp, A-H switch assignments) out of my A$$? Sometimes there are work arounds.
I’m looking for 5 different scenes. You are correct about the amount of amps for each unit.
Ok, sorry that the QC did not meet your demands.
For me, I tested FM3 and I just couldn’t stand the awkward user interface and incredible complexity to get a descent sound. And the limitation for one amp.
FM9 form factor was too big for my use cases.
But each to his own, I guess 
Thinking about it, maybe I should go to the Fractal forums and tell the users there that I think their units are crap? 
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