I understand wanting a particular amp model like the Triaxis in the QC. I wish the QC had a model of a Fryette Pittbull 100CL, which is the tube amp I owned for 10+ years before selling (to fund my QC).
…But that’s not the same as outright claiming that the QC doesn’t have enough amps.
BINGO! It doesn’t make sense…
Good for you! ahaha. Sure, I wish they had some more amps, but your claim of them not having enough amps still is wrong lol. I would imagine they’ll still add more.
It took Line 6 nearly 10 years of Helix to add a 5150 III, which was released years before Helix even was a product. Who knows
Ok what if we reword OPs original questions for the purpose of just having a discussion at the coffee shop type convo, which would be an awesome convo to be a part of if it happened-even if some statements seemed a bit outlandish aye!
“i own qc, fractal, etc etc and in comparison the qc has less amps than fractal. Do you think neural struggles to create new amps, is there a problem (maybe a technical limitation) or something else? Ive tried tons of captures, but i do not like them. Maybe neural is thinking that captures suffice for new amps or they think theres more to be gained in this than in making new amps? Any thoughts?”
(not that it matters but im BLOWN AWAY at the number and quality of the amps on qc. Just got it over xmas and never in 35 yrs of guitar have i played so much! And ive built and modded a lot of amps!)……
There’s none so blind as he who will not see. Are these a lot of bass amplifiers? What I’m hearing from some people isn’t very coherent.
The B3K is not the same as the B7K, and I repeat, with Quad Cortes EQs, they don’t sound the same as a B7K.
Mesa Boogie Triaxis, Ampeg SVT-4 Pro, Ampeg SVT-2 Pro… These are classics that many would use, but Neural doesn’t carry them.
It could also be that you all seem very happy with what Quad Cortes offers, and that’s why they don’t include more amps…
You have an abrasive communication style that isn’t serving you well. First, you didn’t specify in your original post that you were only interested in bass amps. You simply stated the QC doesn’t have enough amp models which is absurd. Now that you have clarified it’s easy to agree with you. I’m not personally familiar with the Triaxis, I’m primarily a guitar player, but I certainly am familiar with the Ampeg models you mentioned and it is a shame those aren’t represented.
I could offer some workarounds if you’re interested. For instance I used to own the Fender TMP and before they added bass amps I got very good results by buying some SVT IRs and combining them with a clean preamp. But the tone of your previous posts makes me think you aren’t open to suggestions you just came here to criticize QC. That’s a shame. This is a community forum and people here are very friendly and helpful, but it’s nobody’s job to make you happy. Sorry. Hope you find what you’re looking for.
Regarding the bass amps list of models… it’s not great. Have you voted here? More Bass Amps/Cabs (Not Captures), more mic choices, and more bass specific effects
Please do.
Have you tried capturing YOUR favorite amps? The V2 is amazing. You use ir’s? It’ll sweeten the deal
Another thing… this will sound sacrilegious… the “guitar” blocks often sound great on bass.
I would like some low end love too. (Darkglass plugin? Updated v2 captures - Aguilar db751) But this device is incredibly open to create and shape tone, and it works well with other devices. It’s a great time to play!!!
yeah, if you had specified ‘bass amps’ from the beginning, you probably would have gotten no disagreements. The QC is lacking in bass content vs guitar, that is widely known. We’ve been begging for more over the last few years. We pretty much have to rely on captures for expanding our libraries. Tweaking a model to your preferred settings isn’t really any different than finding a capture with those settings; once you find them on a model you generally don’t change those either.
Another thing to consider is that a lot of the Guitar Amp models are just fine for bass. If you’re only judging by what you SEE in the factory content, it’s worth remembering that it’s what you HEAR that really matters. That can get obscured easily in modeler-world.
But, if captures are a deal-breaker you can’t learn to live with I don’t know that I’d recommend an NDSP product for bass only at the moment. Most of the bass amp content they’ve added since it’s release has been in capture form. We have no idea when or if they’ll give us more bass amp models (though some are still shown as pending on the device list)
There is an SVT Classic in that amp model list haha. I understand there could be more amps, but getting angry about it on a message board that’s basically just users of the Neural products doesn’t really help. You probably should message Neural themselves.
You should look into a Darkglass Anagram or Helix Stadium if you want that specific stuff. Might as well post on a Mesa forum that you want them to make a 5150 or Bogner clone
I don’t understand the problem…. If a amp model is missing, just get captures of it from someone like Amalgam.
TBH, I believe you are applying your understanding of pure “modelers” (like Fractal) to the QC, which is not doing it justice.
The philosophy of the CQ is “provide a broad range of modelled amps, then offer capture technology for the more ‘exotic’ and user-specific amps” - that’s a “best of both worlds” approach.
No modeller will ever provide a model of every exotic amp every user may want at some time (although Fractal are trying their best to get there…) - that’s the domain of profiles, captures, whatever you want to call the approach.
Neural are providing a broad palette of amp and pedal flavors to achieve a wide range of sounds for all kinds of genres - definitely enough to get pretty much everyone a working repertoire (unless you’re into veeery specific sound characteristics). Saying “they lack amplifiers” is a bit of a misrepresentation, based on the broad range available.
(We can discuss bass amps - the offering is definitely narrower than that for guitars, but TBH, the QC isn’t really marketed primarily as a bass amp sim…)
But if you’re set on a very specific sound of a very specific amp, the QC has the capability to capture that specific sound and make it available live / in the studio without shlepping a big fat amp.
So if the Triaxis is so essential to your sound, your option is pretty clear - either create a capture yourself, get someone with a Triaxis to capture it for you, or buy some available captures of a Triaxis. Same with other specific bass or guitar amps you define as “essential” from your perspective. BTW: you can easily capture amp sounds from your Fractal, so if that one has your coveted Triaxis sounds, why not create a capture of a bunch of these and be done with it?
A statement like “The triaxis is the missing piece” feels pretty egocentric to me - another user could define THEIR favorite amp as “the missing piece” with the same right.
As long as the QC provides a broad enough range of amps to get there for most of the users, with the addition of capture technology for the very specific stuff that users just need to get for their personal idea of a sound, I think the “amp” angle is covered quite well.
I’d be more interested in growing the offering of effects (pre- and post-amp) - that’s something not easily adressable via captures (unless we’re talking drives, fuzzes and now compressors). Plus, I’d love a bit more flexibility around routing (e.g. use one lane for “send” effects and be able to easily route to it from the other lanes). That would really make a difference in terms of the sounds achievable and the usability of the device.
But “lacking in amps” - really? Have you ever worked with a Kemper Profiler? No built-in amp models whatsoever, but still a staple on stages and in studios….
Imho a profile/capture is nothing more than someone else’s outfit that I put on, while what I really want is to create my own personal outfit.
Model Land here 
im all about creating my own personal outfit, and I get much better results from creating and using my own captures, with V2 ive been able to capture all my favourite bass gear that didnt quite sound right before.
I’ve just never been able to find “MY” bass sound using models, except for the SansAmp models - those always sound great.
Not if you create your own captures…
I did not know that the Triaxis is a bass amp, so I’m confused about the OPs intentions.
But speaking of bass:
Isn’t the Parallax X plugin also providing many tonal abilities for modern bass sounds?
Triaxis is a guitar preamp. No reason why it can’t be used for bass, though.
I think everyone has had their say on this topic.
How is it the most advanced??
The funny thing about this, is that OP is mad the Triaxis isn’t in the QC amp models, but the Triaxis is a few different Mesa amps. Some of those amps are in fact part of the QC amp model list haha. This is like someone being mad QC doesn’t have the Marshall JMP 1, even though those same amps it has are just in the QC anyways.
Many of you are jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts. I’m not angry, but I don’t understand Neural’s policy. I asked from the beginning if anyone knew whether they were having trouble adding more amplifiers; it’s not normal. They’re giving 100% to the design, but for some reason, they can’t add more amplifiers.
The idea that the Triaxis is a bass amplifier is another conclusion based on misinformation. The Triaxis is a guitar amplifier; can’t people play both bass and guitar? This is like a schoolyard argument; everything needs to be explained.
Regarding the captures… For me, that’s a workaround. I never use them. If you want to change several parameters, it doesn’t sound the same anymore. It’s very easy to understand, but it also needs to be explained.
You prefer that Neural add captures instead of amplifiers; it’s clear from your comments, and that’s precisely what Neural is doing, which I’ll never understand.
There are amp models in QC that are for amps you are looking for in the Triaxis. Also the Triaxis is a super niche preamp that is just different Mesa preamps haha. Neural doesn’t have models of just preamps. But regardless there are multiple models of the amp you’re looking for which the Triaxis tries to replicate itself
