I am a violinist who sits in with many different groups and singer/songwriters. I have “THE PERFECT” preset which includes a harmony processor (mini voices or whatever it’s called).
HOWEVER…. I have no idea what key a group /singer is going to some song in before we do it LIVE in a gig. It’s way, way, way, way too painful to bend down to close my scene view /list, find my harmonizer fx block, open it up, find the correct tab in the UI, go to the key /root and select from the dropdown what key the song is in.
PLEASE… PLEASE… don’t ask me to make 13 copies of a preset so I can have one in each key. That’s just uh, well stupid is as…
Give the QC a function (think of the tap tempo or the tuner functions) where the user can set /specific the key of the song - VIA a FOOTSWITCH (or manually) - a window opens (like the tuner or tap tempo window) and the user can scroll through - VIA a FOOTSWITCH - a list of keys from C, C#, D, D#… and select the key they want. The 2nd item in the window, along with the list of keys that can be scrolled through - is the scale type (major, minor as a starting point… we’ll expect more later). So the window (think tap tempo or tuner) - has [1] list of keys and [2] scale or key type - all of which can be ACCESSED and then controlled by a ((singular)) footswitch.
Once the window is closed - it AUTO-MAGICALLY sets/changes ANY /ALL harmony fx blocks (see the next paragraph).
ONE MORE CATCH… you should add functionality in the harmony blocks that allow it to be set by this preset level key functionality - or not. Some users want their harmonizer on octaves or something that is not key based, so the harmonizer type fx blocks need modified to allow this “preset level” key functionality to set the key or not.
Perhaps… a combination of footswitch A + E can open this preset level key setting functionality, and then once the window is open footswitch A can scroll through the keys, and double tapping it will move it to the scale /key type (major or minor) selection control. Then the combo of those 2 footswitches again will close that window.
Come on Neural - Make Key Selection (Easy) and Great Again
[Bending over and swiping things on a screen totally optional - and not necessary]
I can’t try right now (no access to my QC), but couldn’t you make the „root note“ parameter scene selectable (long press) and then make 8 scenes with different keys? Ok, it’s not 12 keys but at least 8 per preset.
You would rather have the developers spend who knows how many hours to implement your request, rather than take 15 minutes to make 12 presets and save the different keys for each?
Not trying to be snarky, but at some point, feature requests have to be reasonable.
it is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more complicated than simply making 12 presets; please don’t think it’s that easy.
why? Well… a preset is a collection of fx blocks; for me it is not a singular fx block (it’s always many fx blocks). Although I do not drastically change my presets all the time; I ABSOLUTELY do change /tweak my presets. In fact I change and tweak my presets ALL THE TIME. NOW… if I follow this illogic, I have to spend HOURS tweaking 12 presets exactly the same. Uh, NO THANK YOU. That does not even make sense.
I would exponentially rather have developers implement, in a manner similar to the metronome, and tuner - a window that let’s users set the key and mode for the preset.
No, no, no, no… now you’re twisting or bastardizing… the core functionality of scenes. Really?? oh no, no, no. Scenes are more for (a) turning one more fx blocks on/off…and…(b) adjusting the parameters of one more fx blocks. SCENEs let you create UNIQUE sounds within a single preset.
You have 10 scenes - and for most of my presets I use at least 8 scenes for TRUE uniqueness in sound within a single preset; that is turning one or more fx blocks on/off and making SERIOUS changes to the parameters in one or more fx blocks. Using SCENEs to change keys is degrading and taking away the BETTER use of them, for creating unique sounds withing a preset.
This request IS NOT rocket science…
Changing keys - but not changing anything else in the preset IS NOT - creating a unique sound within the preset. It’s keeping the same sound in a different key.
Well… the QC has 2 expression pedal inputs; IMHO - that would be a WASTE of an expression pedal. Yes, it can functionally work. But myself and most users - use EXP pedals for wahs, for filter sweeps, to set %mix on reverbs, or delays, etc. and for volume control (and/or swells).
This would be a sad waste of an expression pedal.
This aint a rocket science request; it’s just common sense for those who play need a preset to function exactly as it is; in more than one key, and cannot afford the waste of time to duplicate (and then keep in sync) the preset in other keys.
Couldn’t you just turn the knob that controls the key of the harmonizer? Haha Just open the block and turn the knob as needed
I don’t know why it wouldn’t need to be some complicated footswitch feature that’s added…. Scenes are also an easy one for you, or a preset for each key. Definitely shouldn’t take hours to adjust presets that are all based on the same one….. That’s kinda user error at that point I feel
Since I’m 99.8% sure this feature will not be implemented anytime soon, I make a last attempt to suggest a workaround.
You say you tweak your preset often, and you don’t want to tweak 12 presets every other day. So far, so clear.
What you could do, maybe, while waiting for the feature to be implemented:
Let’s assume you play your A minor preset and tweak the reverb settings and want to keep it. You could still, after the tweaking, copy and paste it 11 times and adjust the keys. If you do this on your computer in Cortex Control, it should never take more than 10 minutes. 10 minutes to update all 12 presets.
Sorry… appreciate the help, I have a strong aversion to work-arounds. The juice is never worth the squeeze as we say in IT. I will tweak most of my 8 standard presets twice a week over the next three months. I clearly do not have the time to tweak the exact same thing in 11 places; that is absolutely goofy = as is most work-arounds.
This is NOT a bad feature request. I think Fractal has it, and I think Line 6 has a way to change key with a footswitch.
Perhaps… if I was in hybrid mode, a more plausible work around might be footwitches in stomp mode that could be used to change the key /mode. I am not certain if you can assign a footswitch, in stomp mode, to change the key of the minivoicer. Perhaps another feature request. It would chew up the use of a footswitch but it’s night and day better than tweaking 11 presets several times a week, for sure.
sorry to say we kind of live by the workarounds around here, that’s why so many suggestions will probably be shared. We’ve had 5 yrs of development since the QC’s release and we are familiar with the updating pace and strange partial implementations. This forum is mostly about users trying to help each other find ways to cope with impasses to keep the unit usable for ‘edge’ cases.
Unfortunately if you don’t want a workaround you might want to look into Fractal or Line 6. But I do think that the workarounds mentioned here would be a great option, so you could still be fine with the QC
This request doesn’t seem that far off from block presets, no? (Ie preset functionality to mini voicer block could easily permit this). 200+ votes? Id say people want this.
IMO, all this seems reasonable if you honor that the cortex is mult-timbral and mult-instrumental.
It is not a bad feature request, it is just a very niche feature request. There are requests with over 200 votes that have not been implemented yet.
I would not hold my breath for your request to be implemented, so we are all trying our best to find a usable workaround for you.
I do not think you can assign a key change in stomp mode. You can only toggle blocks on or off in stomp mode. What you could maybe do is to have several “minivoicer" blocks in your preset in different keys and switch then on and off with stomps. But I’m not sure if the CPU load will be too high with so many minivoicers in one preset. You might try.