Power Amps for live settings

What power amp are some using for live settings, solid state or a tube power amp? Currently using a Seymour Duncan powerstage 170. Thinking of getting a tube power amp and would it be that much different?

I use two Powerstage 700 amps. One for each cab and so I can tune them individually.

Hereā€™s a video Ola Englund made about power amps with a QC that went up today- https://youtu.be/EBbTIzBbUbQ?si=qvvqPoh3xgldm6TG

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Thanks Brother!!

Iā€™m using an Orange Pedal Baby 100 (solid state Class AB) and itā€™s great.

If you want to go with a tube power ampā€¦ Users who have the Fryette Power Station tend to rave about it.

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Dave Mustaine uses the same setupā€¦Hmmmmm very coolšŸ¤˜šŸ¼

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I recently bought an power amp from Ritter Amplification with either 140 W mono, 280 W (bridged) or 2 x 140 W stereo. I use it with a normal guitar cab using only an amp modell and no cab IR. At home it sounds great, I will see how it sound in a band context. You can see it here: Guitar Board Amp SHP

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Iā€™m a happy H&K Stompman user. Itā€™s a complete amp BUT you can also use only the poweramp section and the Spirit technology does some kind of magic to the tone making it sound really close to a Tube Power Amp.
Itā€™s tiny, non too pricey.
I suggest it

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I rolled my own and run it with a 12" Jensen N12D.

IcePower 200 watt mono class D amp:

I got this idea for this from Mystic38ā€™s very detailed thread in the Fractal forum:

This was an easy assembly and can be done without any soldering if you choose the screw type XLR connector with the case. The case comes with everything you need to mount the amplifier board, on/off switch, LED, XLR input connector, banana/screw type speaker connectors and all wires with connectors except the jumper to disable the audio signal auto standby/on. I bought an IEC power cable and the jumper from Parts Express. The amp came in around $275. Itā€™s as quiet as a church mouse at idle but crazy loud at 4 ohms.

Warning! The balanced speaker outputs are both ā€œhotā€ with a common-mode DC level equal to Vp/2. Shorting one of the terminals to ground will cause irreparable damage to the amplifier module. Plug your speaker(s) in before powering it on.

Amp:

Case:

193 mm ( 7.59ā€ ) wide x 78 mm ( 3.07ā€) High x 191 mm ( 7.51ā€ ) deep

Jumper to disable auto standby/on:

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Nice work! I appreciate a good DIYer. So, youā€™re happy with the sound? What kind of speaker(S) are you running, guitar, FRFR?

I built a 1 X 12" open back cab with a Jensen N12D N12D | Jensen Loudspeakers The combination sounds fantastic in my opinion.

Open back speaker cabinet built from a bee box hive body:

The Bee Box was a fun project. I rounded the outside corners and made a jig to cut the speaker hole with a router. Some basic wood working skills are helpful. It comes with dovetail corners for easy assembly. I made a speaker baffle and two pieces for the back using Ā½ā€ plywood, stained and varnished everything. The hive body is a good size open back cabinet for the Jensen N12D (19-7/8ā€ x 16-1/4ā€ x 9-5/8ā€). I went with the N12D because it was on sale, itā€™s available in 4 ohms and gets good reviews. Itā€™s not a popular as the Ce;lestion F12. I bought the speaker, feet, grill cloth, handle and jack plate from Antique Electronic Supply. The speaker cabinet came to around $200.

The outcome sounds absolutely fantastic with both my Quad Cortex and Tonex pedal! The IcePower amp wants to see a balance input so I use the Tonex pedal with a direct box.

Bee box:

Speaker


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Very creative, bluzdog! Thatā€™s a nice looking cab. What gave you the idea to use a bee hive kit? The N12D is an interesting driver, somewhere between a guitar speaker and an FRFR. The response shows output up to about 12khz, then a sharp drop-off. Are you using cab blocks in your presets? Since most guitar cabs donā€™t have much output above 5-6khz, the N12D could certainly be used as an FRFR for electric but itā€™s probably not extended enough for acoustic presets. With a 98db @ 1w rating, itā€™s efficient enough to give good output from your 100w power amp. Anyway, I applaud your DIY efforts. Well done!

Thanks for the kind words Pete. I stumbled across the bee box idea going down the diy rabbit hole. Iā€™m only running electric guitar through the QC at this point with a cab block and the global EQ set to low pass at 5kish. I have a 4 ohm N12D so the amp should be pushing 200 watts. The only caveat is the only volume control I have is on the QC.

Oops, yes, 200 watts. :crazy_face: Has using the QCā€™s volume control been a problem? You probably have to run that knob pretty low for bedroom practice. Some of those Parts Express kits offer add-ons, such as a volume control. Youā€™ve probably already looked into it.

Using the QC attenuator knob isnā€™t as bad as I thought it would be but I do prefer the sound when itā€™s louder. Fortunately the QC volume knob is assignable to pairs of outputs. I havenā€™t found a better solution yet, I think adding a volume pot at the power amp line input messes with the impedance. Iā€™m still researching options and welcome to any input.

There are a couple of volume control questions under the Q&A tab of the ampā€™s product page. One reply mentions using a 100K pot on the ā€œpreamp inputā€ with no real details past that, but it sounds like it can be done. If itā€™s inserted at the input, it probably wouldnā€™t affect the noise generated by the amp, if thatā€™s your concern. Do you find that your rig is noisy when the volume of the QC is turned down?

Itā€™s been quiet as a church mouse at any volume. I found some info that recommended a pot that is 1/2 the value of the input impedance. The input impedance is 10k so that would suggest 5k.

Since noise isnā€™t a problem and the QCā€™s knob goes all the way to zero, why worry? :wink:

I not worried at all, Iā€™m definitely happy with how it sounds. Itā€™s pretty close to what I get out of my Dynaudio BM5A monitors plugged in to an Audient Nero monitor controller which is pretty close to what I get out of my tube amps. Itā€™s more of a curiosity thing. When I get done with my current project Iā€™ll pick up a couple of pots, breadboard them and do a some tests.
You peaked my interest about running an acoustic guitar through that speaker. I have an Audio Sprockets Tone Dexter that I usually run straight in to a pa. Iā€™ll take it for a spin with an old Martin D35.

Hey, Iā€™m still wondering what advantages you see in using a power amp onstage?
Why do you prefer it?

Iā€™m asking, because I tried a couple of times using my QC with my engl tube amp and its 2x12 box, but ended up much happier with the sound of the quad cortex coming from my stage monitor only. By doing this, I am also under the impression of having more control over the sound that is going to FOH.
Also the advantage of not having to carry an amp and its box is quite a quality of life improvement :wink:

Iā€™m saying this as a professional guitarist that has been playing tube amps for over 15 years.