OS 3.0.0 New Midi - still hoping for something different

I’m using the QC with the 4 cable method: routing pedals (internal and captures) and effects before an FX Loop module on the QC, and other effects like reverbs and delays out into my amp’s FX Loop.

My amp has 3 channels, A, B, C - controllable via midi. So I set up the Preset Midi to change the channels with each preset (via my amps settings CC 56, CC 58, CC 59) - WORKS GREAT in Scene mode.

My problem is, if I go to Stomp mode, any of the effects assigned to any of the footswitches that have Midi info for the Scenes, changes the channel on my amp (via Midi) as well as turning the effect on and off.

I want Midi routing for only Scenes, but for it to be ignored in Stomp.

Is this possible? Am I crazy?

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Can you change the MIDI channel on your amp so that it’s not affected by changes to your QC’s settings? Or just change the MIDI channel on your QC so it’s not listening for PCs being sent to the amp.

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I just changed the settings for Quad Cortex base midi channel to channel 2, my amp Midi signal is changing CC messages on channel 1

And then reversed it, so QC is channel 1 and my amp CC messages change on channel 2.

That didn’t fix it.

The Stomp mode buttons A-H are still changing the amp midi channels each time I turn a stomp on or off.

The QC is sending the midi message correctly, for the way it’s set on Scenes, but continues to send the message for Preset and Stomp mode too.

Unfortunately I think that’s just the way it is currently. Each midi command corresponds to a footswtich, so makes no difference what mode you’re in.

Ideally we would either be able to set midi commands per scene/stomp, and/or be able to turn blocks on and off via individual midi commands, (without having to use multiple commands to go into stomp mode press footswtich, come out of stomp mode etc).

Oh, I’m sorry; I thought you had an external MIDI controller controlling BOTH units. My bad.

Maybe make a double set of switches; one that sends MIDI and one that doesn’t? Do you need all the switches? Maybe build more presets and try to fit less into each so you have some empty switches that you can turn off the MIDI on…

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Live, I only use Scenes - and scene A-H has the midi command to change my channel on the amp from clean to crunch to full distortion.

What I’ve been doing is trying to program all effect changes, chorus, flange, delay, etc into a specific scene & amp channel, and just use Scene mode to change from one setting - effects on, to a different scene, effects off

Gives me the 8 options, but would be nice if I could go into Stomp mode, and click on a different drive pedal or boost or something that isn’t always programmed in.

I’m trying to avoid using a second, external midi pedal to change both QC and my amp together.

I have mailed support about the Scene / Stomp midi problem. Hopefully they add something in the 3.1 update.

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there it is again…“hopefully”

we need a counter for that word on this forum

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Well they sent the issue to the dev team, so I’m sure they are aware as of now. I think this is urgent enough for players like us to have fixed.

What they should do, as pretty much every other modeler has out there, is implement full midi, allowing you change every (block) parameter on the QC, whatever mode you are in. That openes so much possibilities… In that sense I miss my Helix. But the QC has so much better sound…

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I fully agree with this! But for an easy fix for now would be to make selectable if you want to send midi messages in only scene / block or both modes. But I indeed want to have this functionality that there is full midi compatibility per block.

Yes the update is great but where is the extended MIDI capability that everyone has been asking for ever since I got my QC almost a year ago? Such a basic feature for ALL other such units and this very limited capability on the most advanced unit out there.

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See this as a chance to guide them in the direction that you want it to be in.
I think this feature will come in the next update. Because it’s a serious thing.

They had over 4 years to get this sorted and the irony of it is that it is already in but very limited and I don’t think documented, as I described here: Redirecting...

This is why i sent my first QC back. With Fractal gear, you can assign MIDI freely to any block or parameter as you see fit. HX is way less flexible, but the QC is nearly Stone Age by comparison.

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I had Fractal gear before QC - love it too (use for recording now, as well as a Kemper), but wanted a smaller footprint / pedalboard, but still a fair amount of buttons I can press and use live.

The scenes and midi assignments in Fractal gear are something I’d love to see in the QC. I feel that Fractal has a really strong infrastructure for customizing and editing how you need it to work - but, I also wanted to use the Neural plugins and one day, the Fortin Zuul gate makes its way in, when Nameless X becomes accessible in the QC.

If they don’t fix this issue, I have a workaround, but would love the added flexibility to assign midi where and how I want - in this case, only in Scene mode - and no messages sent in Stomp mode too.

They already have a small version of this, because in Preset mode, no midi signal is sent - so it’s just a cross between Scenes & Stomp.

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I’d like to see settings something like these two mockups I quickly made…

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We have been from the get go.

I’ve made this for my mail to support haha:

But I think your mockup is more elegant.

So I did a bump of the full midi posts and it was immediately disabled ‘this has been posted already by millions of users’. I think that was an answer from ChatGPT as it was cleary hallucinating.