Looper won't stay in time with external clock

Quad Cortex
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Hi everyone. I just received my QC. Really need to sync the looper to the singular sound Beat Buddy. Any news on that?

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I have the beatbuddy with the QC. I can’t get it to work. It seems to work, but drifts gradually.

I know that my QC is receiving midi clock from the BB because it works for the delays, etc. but the looper doesn’t seem to work with it.

Have a try for yourself, you might be luckier than me.

I finally bought an Aeros looper after trying quite a few other pedals. It’s definitely the best looper I’ve ever used.

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I will try it and revert. I really need 1 loop and I dont have the space for an added looper. Right now I am using a Ditto jam with the BB but I would love to downsize as well as use the looper X feature of uneven loop lengths. I wonder if this fix is in the works

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I am experiencing same issue. Looper starts drifting. Would be great with an update on it. I have also written support.

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I think I’ve found the problem with looper drift. If the length of the loop is a repeating number then the QC must round it which can make it a different length than the drum track. For example, the length of a QC loop with a tempo of 66 and a quantize of 4 is 60/66*4 = 3.63636363636363…. So, QC likely rounds it down which ends up being shorter than the drum track.

Tempos that work for me with a quantize of 4 are 50, 60, 64, 75, 80, 96, 100, 120, 125, 128 and 150. I’ve never had drift with these tempos. It does depend on the quantize you’re using. For example, a tempo of 72 doesn’t work for quantize of 4 (3.3333…) but does work for 3 (2.5).

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Looper sync
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Hi!

We’ve got the team looking into a fix for this issue, thanks for your patience!

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Also here having the same issue, led tempo is blue, indicating it is syncing to external clock, but after a while the loop starts drifting out of sync. Happy to hear of an update!

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Any update @jndsp ? Seems this still is the case with drift. Also it seems that if you use a MC8 or any other midi controller the looper will not always detect the signal from the guitar, but is completely fine with the QC buttons. Scenes, Stomps, and Presets work as expected, just not the record/playback. Interesting enough you can force a loop to stay in sync with DAW IF you use the QT rules listed above. I saw this happen on t he Fractal stuff as well.

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Good day. Guys, this should have been fixed. This is very dissapointing. Seriously considering into switching to fender tonemaster pro that has this feature. Really need to ditch my looper and use the looper from my almost 2000 euro unit. Its actually been YEARS this has been requested.

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Hey. Is there any update on this? I’m performing live with the QC as the heart of my setup, and this issue has been really frustrating and limiting. Hope this gets resolved soon.

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Thank you for this! This saved my gig last weekend :slight_smile: Hope it gets resolved soon so we don’t need this workaround…

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What workaround? :slightly_smiling_face:

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There are some tempos that work without drifting. So, the workaround is to just use them (see my post in April of 2024). Not a great solution and hopefully they fix the problem.

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Any news ? Really annoying…

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I haven’t heard of a fix. Agree, it is annoying especially considering it likely requires fixing a mathematical formula which shouldn’t be too hard.

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Hi, it would be cool if this was fixed. I also can’t use properly the looper with quantize on, it regularly goes out of sync (playing with a Roland TR6S which is fed through the stereo returns and sync via midi clock)! It’s a pity as the looper is otherwise very good.
Maybe a click would also be great just to start recording in sync when quantize is on and there is no delays or some time based effect to go along.
Thanks (Otherwise the QC is a great peace of gear!)

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Any updates on this? Only certain bpm’s seem to sync correctly without drift.
This is a huge deal for performing live with a band!

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I actually found that setting the midi clock start in the looper settings will correct the sync issues (for all BPM tempos).

However, you need to send out a midi clock start event from somewhere.

(in my case, i have a sp404mk2 sampler and I send the midi clock start when starting a pattern, this keeps the loop in sync without drift. Buttttttt it also starts the loop record immediately, which is not ideal because I always miss the beginning of my loop rec –pushing my sampler pattern will immediately send out the midi clock start event–

I need to find a way to send the start midi clock event 1 bar after I started the pattern.

Anyway, this is a real very annoying workaround that requires you to do some midi programming

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It seems that the loop will sync to external midi only if the start command comes from the external midi unit.

Here is my post in the BeatBuddy forum after hours of testing:

  1. The QC receives tempo from BB clock. When pressing start on BB, the QC tempo align, so they are perfectly in sync. So far, so good.

  2. With both units in sync, when pressing Record on the QC looper, the Auto quantize does not function and the loop will drift off. That’s a real bummer.

  3. Only solution I’ve found is to activate “Midi Clock Start” on the QC looper while the BB is stopped. When pressing “Record” on the QC looper, it will not record, but listen for the start command from BB. Then Auto quantize works flawless.

This limits the use of BB and QC looper. I really don’t know why 2) won’t work.