It would be really nice to have this feature!
How do you route the signal from a cab post FXs to a poweramp and to FOH?
Please explain like I’m five…
You can’t in a simple way currently. You either have to have your post-cab-fx twice (Split before the cab) or have no post-fx at all on your signal that is going to the real cab (split before the cab or insert a send).
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If the effects you have post Cab block are all linear (Chorus, Delay, Reverb, EQ, etc.) then it doesn’t matter if these effects are before or after the Cab block which is also linear. So you can move all the post-amp effects before the cab block and then either tap a send or use parallel paths to have an output with the Cab block and one without. This is what I do. I also put a Doubler in the IEM signal path with the Cab block that is not in the output to may stage amp (Powercab in FLAT/LF Raw mode - a powered guitar speaker). This adds some space in my IEM mix that I don’t want in the stage amp.
If you have non-linear effects after the Cab block, like Compressor, Rotary or any other block that has a Drive or introduces distortion, then it will make a difference before or after the Cab block since these non-linear blocks are seeing a different signal. That may still not matter that much and some minor adjustments might make it work fine.
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Any way to just show a photo of the screen to see what this looks like in the UI?
Absolutely wild that this wasn’t something included from the start.
I believe it depends on the fact that the architecture and signal path of QC is very open, so it’s not straightforward like in a machine such as the Kemper to disable the IR block (which is always and only placed at the end of the machine’s signal path). With QC, you can create very complex chains (with real parallels, for example) and especially use the IR block to load acoustic sounds, for example.
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the kemper’s ir is not at the end of the signal path. it’s right after the amp and there are post fx after it
That’s what you see on the machine for better comprehension of building paths, but in the internal logic of the machine the IR is put in the end. So it’s easy for them to split signals with and without IR
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This makes sense, especially because otherwise there would need to be two different instances of each effect running to process the DI and cab sim.
I don’t see how QC would be able to have the outputs be configured with/without the cab sim when the cab is before the effects. You would also need the extra DSP for the post cab effects to process the two signals.
The only real workaround here would be to have the effects before the cab and split the signal to another lane for a dry output before the cab, or duplicate all the effects on another lane without the cab.
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Exactly, keeping in mind that the post cab effects sound different if put BEFORE cab, being the IRs something like an EQ filter (they’re much more, but to simplify)
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