It would be really nice to have this feature!
How do you route the signal from a cab post FXs to a poweramp and to FOH?
Please explain like I’m five…
You can’t in a simple way currently. You either have to have your post-cab-fx twice (Split before the cab) or have no post-fx at all on your signal that is going to the real cab (split before the cab or insert a send).
If the effects you have post Cab block are all linear (Chorus, Delay, Reverb, EQ, etc.) then it doesn’t matter if these effects are before or after the Cab block which is also linear. So you can move all the post-amp effects before the cab block and then either tap a send or use parallel paths to have an output with the Cab block and one without. This is what I do. I also put a Doubler in the IEM signal path with the Cab block that is not in the output to may stage amp (Powercab in FLAT/LF Raw mode - a powered guitar speaker). This adds some space in my IEM mix that I don’t want in the stage amp.
If you have non-linear effects after the Cab block, like Compressor, Rotary or any other block that has a Drive or introduces distortion, then it will make a difference before or after the Cab block since these non-linear blocks are seeing a different signal. That may still not matter that much and some minor adjustments might make it work fine.
Any way to just show a photo of the screen to see what this looks like in the UI?
Absolutely wild that this wasn’t something included from the start.
I believe it depends on the fact that the architecture and signal path of QC is very open, so it’s not straightforward like in a machine such as the Kemper to disable the IR block (which is always and only placed at the end of the machine’s signal path). With QC, you can create very complex chains (with real parallels, for example) and especially use the IR block to load acoustic sounds, for example.
the kemper’s ir is not at the end of the signal path. it’s right after the amp and there are post fx after it
That’s what you see on the machine for better comprehension of building paths, but in the internal logic of the machine the IR is put in the end. So it’s easy for them to split signals with and without IR
This makes sense, especially because otherwise there would need to be two different instances of each effect running to process the DI and cab sim.
I don’t see how QC would be able to have the outputs be configured with/without the cab sim when the cab is before the effects. You would also need the extra DSP for the post cab effects to process the two signals.
The only real workaround here would be to have the effects before the cab and split the signal to another lane for a dry output before the cab, or duplicate all the effects on another lane without the cab.
Exactly, keeping in mind that the post cab effects sound different if put BEFORE cab, being the IRs something like an EQ filter (they’re much more, but to simplify)
I need that feature right now. I’m desperate. It’s a shame because I’m very happy with the rest of QC’s features, but this is a real drag.
Hi there,
I just bought the Quad Cortex thinking this feature was on board. I was very disapointed when I saw it was only a “by row” bypassing and can’t see the use for that in my case.
I think we’re a bunch with the following configuration : Out1/2 to front system and Out 3 to an amp
Just Split before the cab / ir and go to out 1/2 from there
Thanks for the reply, but this workaround is no possible in my setup as I use 2 inputs + spliters to create virtual loops for delays.
Same here. I really don’t understand why this isn’t already implemented 
You got my vote, and I would like to have this feature as well.
This is the single most feature I want at the moment. Disabling Cab/IRs blocks by row doesn’t do it for me. It should be by output.
For example I sometimes use headphones (need Cab block), and something use a power amp and real cab (don’t need Cab/IR block). Being able to assign Cab block bypass by output would be a one time set and forget. Right now I have to flip it back and forth depending on what output I want to use ie. Headphones or poweramp/cab.
I think this is a must have. Even the Valeton GP-200 can do this.
Today I was working on this exact subject. I had to create another route for the monitor, which is a waste of time and resources… Got my vote.
After reading much of this thread, I decided to test out the recommended workarounds. I moved my cab block in the grid to the very end, after the time-based effects, and placed the send block right before it, like this:
A/B testing with the cab block before and after the time-based effects gave very little difference in terms of sound. So, what others were saying about the order of the chain is true: the cab block’s position does not really matter in relation to these effect blocks. If you are using stereo reverbs and delays, use a stereo cab/IR. And probably this is also how the Kemper works under the hood: the cab emulation is only added at the very end so that the effects do not need to be run twice in parallel. (Kemper manual link if anyone wants to find it.)
This is a much better approach than splitting a row and duplicating the effect blocks. Yes, it adds one more block (the send), but that should not be a big deal. Try it out and see if you are convinced by the suggestion.
If Neural DPS implemented this request as intended, it would mean reserving DSP and running a whole parallel grid, potentially doubling the resources needed by the original chain. Would this halve the allowed processing power for a preset? At that point, I would prefer them implementing the seamless preset switching… It is just not a good fit for their grid architecture, compared to the linear/rigid signal chain in the Kemper.
Perhaps an alternative would be to have a mixer view for each output and send, where the signal for each is taken from arbitrary points in the chain (like when you do side-chaining). That would make the send and some blend blocks redundant, and would allow for some interesting routing. (Borrowing a bit from Mix several signals to one send-output , Headphone output - Advanced mixer , etc.)