I agree, the QC’s rotary sound is not what I like either. I much prefer the Leslie effect in my AX8. A mix control would be very helpful. I don’t use this effect often so I’ve been using the Univibe instead. Fortunately, I think most of the QC’s other effects are excellent.
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These sounds are a good example! That he is still using Mobius, which in my opinion still does not have all the controls to act on this effect.
But it already delivers a sound closer to what was expected.
Please help us.
Thanks
THIS @M_NDSP !! Sounds a bit dull and can’t really hear any definition in notes or in the actual rotary effect
I compared the Rotary with the Rotary in the Möbius. And i think that the biggest Differenz is that the Doppler Effect, the Pitch changing is to much. Thats the reason why it Sounds a Little artificial. I think i they would tame this a little, it would make it sound much better. Beside this. The Rotary (an many other effects) need a volume “pot”. It is always to loud in comparsion to the dry Signal. Especially when i use drive.
A friend of mine introduced me to using the Chief CE2W as a rotary simulation. In the CE1-V Type setting and Depth at 60%, it sounds pretty rotar-ish. It doesn’t have the frequency response alteration or overdrive capability of a Leslie model, so it’s a bit hi-fi, but it sounds very cool (especially in stereo) and at least gets me in the ballpark.
I’m using Vibrato. Rate at 5.4, Depth 17%, Width 60%
It does the job until maybe a better actual Rotary
@NeuralDave please look into this! I think a lot of players would love this! Right now, IK Multimedias Amplitube Leslie collection is the only one that really does the Leslie thing for me! You might look into the way it sounds in terms of ‘woodyness’ and giving you the feeling of true stereo movement instead of the unnatural panning/vibrato most sims (sadly including the qc) do.
I have to agree, the leslie block is unusable for me. It lacks that watery sound. No matter what I do it just sounds like a vibrato with an unpleasing eq on it. I’ve spent a few hours trying to get it to work for me, splitting it with the unaffected signal to give it more of a chorus feel etc, compressing after the effect. No matter what I do it just sounds stiff and honky. The leslie sim is the one thing I miss from my old kemper 
Believe it or not, my standard is the Leslie in the old Digitech GSP1101. The cool thing about it (besides how great it soundede…) was that you could control the speed of the leslie. The effect had so much depth! Digitech had a shortlived pedal platform called iStomp where you could swap out the programs of the digital pedal for whatever they had (ie. Distortions, chorus, Lexicon verbs…) Their rotary was the same thing as in the GSP1101. I was using a Helix rack and then put the old iStomp in the FX loop. People were always blown away by it. I had to explain that it was not the Helix. The Helix ratary is kind of like the QC’s. Hell, if the Neuro folks wanted to model it, I would gladly send my iStomp to them as a model. I can still put it in the FX loop of the QC but would rather have it onboard. Like I said earlier, having the ability to gradually increase/decrease the speed was really cool. Even thoughthe old leslies did not do this unless you added some kind of rheostat or something,
My summary would be:
- Add a depth control to manage how “deep” the Doppler effect is
- Add a Wet/Dry mix control
- Allow the speed to be configured to any footswitch (should be part of an overall redesign of foot switch controls that is badly needed)
- Use a different LFO or a delta on the LFO (as on Fractal) to allow the horn and rotating speaker to be different speeds and different phase. This is where the magic of a Leslie resides - in the differences between the horn and rotating baffle.
Never really been a rotary user, probably because the one i ever had were not to my taste but that strymon lex is something !!!
If the QC improve itself in that area, i won’t complain, really love jon lord so…
I still have a Digitech GSP 1101 and it has the greatest rotary ever. You can control the speed and it just sounds superb. Maybe since Digitech is kind of not doing much they could give it to QC?
I agree, the QC rotary isn’t that great nor is the line 6.
Digitech has new ownership more recently and has been picking back up again.
Poly capo for Line 6 was apparently developed with old employees of Digitech that worked on the Drop pedal. I think once Samsung bought Digitech and basically gutted it, they went to Line 6.
I absolutely love my QC and find most models to be very good to amazing. The Leslie model is a massive exception. I can’t figure out how it went so wrong. Maybe it’s a model of a Radio Shack rotary speaker. 
+1 Rotary needs some love from developers.
Moreover, as others have said, a mix (dry/wet) knob would be great.
Would be great to have some emulation of best Rotary of the history.. Yamaha RA 200, Doppolas, lesley ecc..
Please update the rotary effect. It’s an essential effect for me, and it doesn’t sound good in the qc.
I’ve come up with some ways to enhance the Rotary effect on the QC - I’m a guitarist & B3 player and have tried most of the available pedals for guitar all of which have their pros & cons - this is what I find works well:
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Start a new input row with only the rotary block and guitar straight in. Go to page 2 on Rotary & select 100% for HORN MIC WIDTH.
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Save separate slow & fast speed settings in a scene so you can change speeds seamlessly
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Place the Poly Octaver block with 100% DRY about 70% OCT & 20% SUB before Rotary. Save a scene with this both on & off
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Add your favorite overdrive (I use the Green 808) before the Poly Octaver and Rotary blocks - adjust to taste. Save a scene with your OD both on & off
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Play around with the drive & tone within the rotary block itself.
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Lately I have added multiple Pitch Shifters to duplicate the root, 3rd & 5th (both lower & higher) to simulate the drawbars on a B3. I keep the mix of these about 5.0% as they can get overbearing. This will make your guitar sound more like an organ
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Adjust the overall output of this row in relation to your other rows in this scene - experiment & have fun!
I personally like the transparency of the rotary effect and have come up with some scenes that I actually like better than most pedals - but NOT more than a real Leslie!
very cool tips, Larry. Do you have a preset on the Cloud with these tweaks? If not, mind if I make one as a template and share it?
Very nice resume there, thanks for sharing your knowledge here!