Hey folks,
I would like to get your thoughts about the noise gate getting choppy with low signal when you turn down your volume knob on the guitar.
What’s your solution to fix this issue ?
I’m currently using the gate at the input block.
If I wish to get an edge of breakup (clean up) tone by rolling my volume down I’ll most like turn off the input gate (scene bypass) as it’s cutting out soft notes and playing dynamics.
Thanks for your time and help.
The solution is pretty simple. Realistically the gate is only reacting because when you turn down your guitar it isn’t passing the threshold of the input gate. This would happen with any gate, no matter the brand, etc. Classic issue that guitarists have had since a gate was invented. Typically people shut off the gate when they lower their signal a bunch from the guitar. Here a couple other options-
-use Adaptive Gate with S/C. Use the guitar input as the trigger for it. Adjust the threshold to taste. Ideally you should be using a gate that has a side chain function. This method is supposed to make a gate more accurate
-automate the gate you’re using with different scenes. If you’re gonna turn down your volume know then have a setting for the gate that adjusts to this. Either adjust the threshold or turn the gate off.
I use a ISP Decimator G-String and with about 40% Threshold I get zero noise/hiss and the signal don’t stutter when I roll back the volume to get cleans.
The Noise Gates on QC are not very good IMHO, compared to other units.
I had a Helix and didn’t experience any stutter as well. Of course I don’t play high-gain so I don’t know, with a higher or extreme threshold, how it would behave.
Try the side chained adaptive gate at the end of your virtual signal chain with the side chain input set to be the QCs input like @SelfTitledLP wrote.
Thanks for your reply,
I’ll definitely give the adaptive gate S/C a try.
Otherwise, I’ll try usually scenes with the On/Off option or I might experience with the threshold level using scene.
I’ve heard great things about the ISP decimator.
I was using the Helix stuff for my main amp sounds for a little bit. Couldn’t stand the gates on Helix. Once I switched to the QC and they added the side chain, I easily added it to every preset of mine and it’s been awesome. I use it for anything between light cleans to heavy distortion
Here a follow up after a few tests this evening.
The best results has been the adaptive gate S/C before the amp but after the input. For example a compressor or drive pedal before the amp.
In some case the best solution still remain turning the gate off to get the roll off tone via the volume pot of the guitar.
For example, on lower gain amp or clean amp tones.
Cheers
Same experience, hope the noise gate can be improved, it’s like the old amplitube, guitar rig or logic pro amps gates, not very good. (It’s the thing i dislike the most in the QC)
Didn’t tried the helix but the kemper one is so much better, almost magical when you turn it on, all the shhhh ppsscchhhh etc disappear even when you let the note slowly dies with an high gain amp…
Is there a reason that the QC one can’t achieve the same quality of the kemper one (maybe hardware related) ?
The helix gates are pretty bad. Kinda a last resort for me if I absolutely need a gate and that’s what’s on my board
Doesn’t help if you don’t own the plugin and don’t want to spend more money, but I find the Fortin Zuul gate model from the nameless suite to be A LOT better in that regard (even if it lacks the side chain feature - don’t know why they didn’t add it as the Zuul is one of the gates that is best known for its side chain input aka key input) compared to the stock ones. But it also has a way higher CPU usage.
I’ve been using the adaptive gate S/C since it was dropped but it’s only marginally better. I have 2 analog noise gates which don’t have the cutoff issue.
Neural really needs to do better especially now Line 6 is dropping their new beast soon…
Is it possible that it just NDSP makes very “sensitives to noises” products ?
I only have one plugin but it is also very noisy if i compare it to the kemper (or my old tube amp) For exemple i can use it with only one pickup position of my bass (cort GB 35) cause the other positions have whistles…