I want to figure out how to dial in a wide sounding tone on my QC without using the doubler feature. I have watched live videos of spiritbox playing live and noticed they don’t use a doubler (the guitar tone collapses to mono just fine), and their guitar tones sound wide. Same with paleface swiss, they have a live tone that sounds wide with just 1 guitar but it collapses to mono just fine. Which means they aren’t using a doubler because it would be phasey. I’ve heard terms going around such as wet/dry, and also using 2 different IRs panned hard left/right, but are there any other methods I haven’t heard of/thought of?
I’ve attached some videos showing these tones, thanks so much in advance!
-backing track comes in for the guitar double when it’s needed (highly likely). That guitar playthrough definitely isn’t just his live guitar haha. Feels like it’s pretty heavy on the backing tracks even for additional guitar layers. This is pretty common for play through and these sorts of metalcore bands live. Pretty easy tell for that is basically no hand noise is present even in super high gain. It’s edited af. Most likely his live guitar is not even playing in the play through and it’s an edited take he added in after or it’s from the album
-the presets for the QC only have a doubler in a scene come in for certain sections. This is a popular thing for single guitar metalcore bands right now. It could be the doubler block, or a separate lane opens with a 100% wet short delay on it to offset the double.
-they’re using a second amp on a separate lane with a 100% wet short delay to offset the double. It’s possible to configure this to not be as phased sounding as the QC doubler
Watched the live videos (had only watched the Spiritbox play through at first) and there are definitely backing tracks with at least a guitar double going on. Basically of these modern metalcore bands have a ton of stuff that’s on a backing track. They’re pretty much playing along to the album recording with a little of their live guitar in there. The guitars sound wide because it isn’t just one guitar.
