No top end at all, even with treble and presence cranked. Muffled. While other amps are more balanced and usable right out of the gate.
How can these muffled amps ever be made to work? It’s weird.
No top end at all, even with treble and presence cranked. Muffled. While other amps are more balanced and usable right out of the gate.
How can these muffled amps ever be made to work? It’s weird.
Are they mic captures, rather than direct? Are you doubling up with a cab sim?
As I play through a real cab, I only ever search for direct captures so I don’t really find many muffled captures. I figure it’s harder to mess those up, as there’s no reliance on mic quality, placement etc…
Try a different cab, or…
Accept that there are many different people, with many different ideas of what sounds good, or the sound that they want.
Plenty of captures by well known professionals sound awful to me, but that’s because they are playing a very different style of music and want something very different from their guitar tone.
Have you checked out the Worship Tutorials presets? I highly recommend the Matchless DC30, Pro Reverb, Marshall Super 100, Orange OR120. They also have higher gain amp models. In my opinion their captures are best in class and they each cost less than $20. I’ve tried a lot of other companies and they all come up short.
Thanks, everyone. I’m talking about captures that I just can’t imagine anyone thinking are usable ever. They’re that far gone. There’s so many of them that I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. The point about the capture maybe including a cab is a good one. How can I know? When I look at my list of captures, there’s no info about each. Just a name. It’ll be cool if there is a chunk of descriptive metadata text included with each.
It just seems so weird that so many of them can be so apparently completely unusable. I will try bypassing the cabsim in those cases and see what happens. Thanks, again.
Are you talking about the pre-loaded captures, or what you are downloading from Cortex Cloud?
If it’s the latter, then I would start including (and limiting yourself to) well known “capture-ers” like Worship Tutorials as previously mentioned (among many others) in your search terms.
Also, can you post a picture of your setup or briefly describe it? Not suggesting you’re doing something wrong, but it could help some of the more knowledgable members on this forum troubleshoot your issue.
unfortunately we’re still at the mercy of the user uploading the capture to provide any details. There are categories of icons that indicate whether a cap is just an amp head, a head+cab, a combo, a pedal, etc- but the user has to assign that. Even factory captures that have the correct icon don’t have ANY info on settings, no real description. It’s pretty much chaos out there.
That said, you can pretty much earball a capture to determine if it needs a cabinet or not. Muted/muffly/phasey/boxy = means it probably already has the cab baked in and you don’t want to add a second one. Brittle, spiky, tinny, metallic, too bright or thin; needs a cab.
And for the record, no factory amp captures include the cab, they are all “DI” captures.
99% of user captures are garbage. For some reason everyone thinks they are professional audio engineers. It’s QCs curse. Double edged sword if you will.
To be honest, I don’t know the source for each one. I’m still trying to understand the interface/organization of this stuff on the QC. But all I have is the stock stuff and a bunch of Tone Junkie downloads. Maybe a handful of free ones from elsewhere.
Setup is just my guitar into the QC, then a simple from-scratch patch (amp and cabsim), then out into my Friedman ASC-10.
I’ll report back after I get in there and play some more. Thanks, again, everyone.
To be honest, I have found tone junkie’s captures to too quiet/thin sounding. I dont think they’re bad, I just had a hard time getting a decent output sound/feel. The whole point is to have something insanely close to a real live amp, and I just wasn’t getting that. The QC volume I’ve always dimed to get a full “output” signal to FOH or a monitor. Adjusting volume / level/ gain parameters in the captured amps merely led to clipping issues. I’ll be the first to admit it was likely that I was doing something wrong. But using the stock “captures/ amps” and other captures, I was able to get things sounding the way I wanted. I currently use some Worship Tutorials captures of a Benson Monarch that are the sweet spot for me. I previously used their 64 AC30 and a vibrolux that was awesome. My personal amps are an AC30C2, and a custom handwired 59 bassman that got stuffed into an old hot rod deluxe chassis. That’s where I am trying to get the QC to match my “amps” and the feel of those, while getting to try out some other cool borderline unobtainium -type amps.
Hope you get your issue sorted out.
Dial in your favourite chunkiest tone and stick it on the cloud for us
I’d love to capture both amps honestly, but I’m not much of a “studio” guy. I would need a better mic, or reactive load box plus a DAW to jump into that world.
I don’t know why it didn’t even cross my mind that you might not have a load box
I got a cheap 2nd hand torpedo captor while I still had my Powerball, which I’ve kept despite selling the amp incase I ever meet anyone with some interesting gear! I’m on a ‘strictly DI capture only’ diet.
You just need to mess around with amp and cab settings. Play with different cabs and different mics and mic locations. I have no problems getting great top end.
Like the others said stick with either the amps that neural has in their list or their captures. After all it’s their product. I’ve tried some players that sounded great on utube but when I used them nope. Different guitar, pick ups, I’m using a real guitar cab. So stick with the presets, find one you like then go to scene and mess with the settings. Start off with amp and cab first. Then add drives, compression, noise gate before the amp. Modulation if u use it after the amp and cab. Again, I don’t use IR’s. Plus, I’m using return fx on my amp to the quad. I like the EVH BLUE , Soldano, and the Friedmans. Don’t forget to tap the block and fool with settings. It takes time. Idk what sound ur looking for.
Not sure I agree with this advice. I find Rabea’s SLO captures better than anything I’m able to dial with the model. I have a feeling he has a newer model with the depth knob, as there’s far more bass extension than I’m able to replicate with the model.
I agree on that one. Rabea knows what he’s doing though. I do use other pros presets and tweak them for my guitar like Kiko, McRocklin, and a few others but they’re all pros. I still think neural’s Slo is really good the EVH Blue and the Friedman are my main high gainers. Then for cleans I usually use the twin or jazz chorus or Bogner’s clean kikos 65 Princeton. And some others I can’t think of. I had to remove a bunch because I had way too many on there I wasn’t using. I usually play the same 4-5 sounds. I’m usually in the higher gain realm tbh. But I believe neural will always be working on making things sound better and better. I’m just assuming that’s how processor companies usually work.
Worship Tutorials makes best in class captures. I started a thread earlier and the ego trippers started coming out telling me that I don’t know how to use a QC because I bought a capture. I have to wonder if a lot of people overlook WT simply because of the name? Maybe they think they are only designed for church settings but they couldn’t be more incorrect. They take my QC to a level that stock options simply can’t do. (and no I don’t play church music). A lot of people are seriously missing out and they are dirt cheap.
So if someone disagrees with you, they’re on a ego trip? Asking for a friend.
That’s not what he said. You might want to read what he wrote.