I’m wondering if it’s possible to use QC effects into the loop of QC amps? I’ve found guides online for using physical effects but I’m looking to put the digital effects into the loop of the digital amps, if possible.
Sure. Easy, just put your effect block you want after the amp block or amp and cab block. That’s how I make most of my presets. Drive blocks → amp and cab → delay and reverb to the outputs. Gets you those crystal clear delay repeats and reverb trails like putting the real life delay/reverb pedals in the amps effects loop. Hope this helps.
Sorry to necropost…but can someone explain this routing method?
I’m a fully digital and I had not any experience with analogic stuff, so I see that majority of presets out are set as @Kfletcher said . with time based effects after the amp Just before outputs.
This routing emulate the analogic physical effects loop?
It’s really easy if you want to simulate effects being in the effects loop of an amp on the QC. All you have to do is place the effects after the amp block, and before the speaker block, or output to a real power amp. There isn’t any other trick to it in the digital realm for the QC.
All the effects loop of a real amp does is place the effects after the preamp, and before the power amp output. The QC models include the power amp modeling within them, so all you need to do is place effects between the amp and cab blocks.
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In the amp world there are both parallel and serial effect loops. Serial uses Guitar → Preamp → ‘Effects Loop’–> Power amp, as you describe. In a parallel effects loop, your guitar signal goes to the preamp then directly to the power amp, while a copy is sent through the effects loop and then both are mixed back in to the power amp.
Yeah, that is true but not even going to suggest the routing for that in the QC. It’ll just make everything more complicated for no reason. The majority of tube amps just have a serial effects loop. Parallel effects loops are a lot rarer to find. Also with the QC you aren’t running the effects into a power amp sim since the amp block is just the preamp and power amp combined. So it doesn’t really matter.
Figured it’s easier, especially in the digital realm, for them to just do it the most common and easiest way.
True, parallel effect loops are much rarer, and there is value in keeping things simpler with a serial approach - such as avoiding phase issues. I had an early Mesa Boogie Mark IV with a parallel loop, but my other amps all use serial effect loops.
Ok, understood that in the “real world” the time-based effects are positioned BETWEEN amp and cabinet, my question is: why on the QC they are often positioned AFTER the cab?
Because it gives a different sound. It’s more similar to adding effects in a studio mix. Traditionally the effects are before the cab for live use. It’s common for producers to add some effects after the cab in a studio setting if they want to tweak an effect more later, or not have the cab color the sound of the effect.
They’re just different ways to add the effects. Pick whichever sounds better to you. Neither is wrong, and whichever sounds better to you is fine.
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