Helix Stadium

Size matters. I threw this together before pre-order day (today) so I could have an idea of what I’d be lugging around if I moved to a Stadium. The Quad Cortex is very close to perfect, and the form factor can’t be beat IMO. Don’t think I’ll be jumping ship.

Update: I called Long & McQuade just to get Canadian pricing.
Stadium: $2,499 CDN
Stadium XL: $2,999 CDN

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Same for me. Features of the Stadium are all nice and shiny but nothing I urgently need. And the QC is the only thing that sounds great, fits in my backpack and still has a few footswitches.

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Thanqs, i thought the stadium was closer to the QC but there is significant difference.

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I come back to the QC every time.
Tried the Tonex-One and missed the effects, Ampero and Mooer didn’t come close so I got rid of them as my backup.
Now I have a Nano Cortex(Travel Rig) and a QC as my main effect pedal and I still love it, but if they just made some significant updates to the QC I would not waste a thought about the Stadium. In The end it’s too big and too expansive for me, but I just hope it pushes neural a bit. Updated Looper (playback and save option)and spring Reverb, some new models and more midi etc. would make it even better.
The QC has more then I have ever dreamt of using and the Nano has gotten a F**** great update and showed, that they can deliver big time. So I keep my fingers crossed and hope for more then a click after 7-8 month :sweat_smile:

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I agree. I think the QC still wins form factor for sure. Small enough to take itself and powerful enough by itself with enough switches… and small enough to put on a board with a few other pedals if you want.

Even the smaller stadium version would take up majority of any pedalboard.

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Until i hear it I won’t decide, at this stage you can nearly forget about compatibility of all the plugin’s imo

The QC form factor is perfect.

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and I wasn’t going to jump anywhere. what’s the point, especially since I already bought Archetype 8 as an add-on. another thing is that updates are extremely rare and when they will all be ported to Quadcortex I don’t know. I’ve been waiting for a long time and then decided and bought Dark Glass Anagram since I’m a bass player and I’m really looking forward to Archetype Parallax

I buy most gear that comes out in this realm, but Line 6 amps have not sounded good to me in a long time. If it still sounds like a Helix, I have no need for it. There are loads of ways to capture.

I was big into the capture tech for a long time and still love the kemper, but I have recently gotten into the QC models. The Brit UBL and 2203 are pretty great and like them more than the fractal models. I kind of dismissed them for a couple of years because I was thinking captures were better.

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The models can’t sound as actual helix.
Who Is the Mad compartment that today, with mad and narcisist youtubers, haters, whiners that go out with a product that sounds as the previous..

the stadium went wrong when they decided to remove the scribble strips on the regular stadium XL.

the I/O choices they offer are worthless, not practical at least in my case as a guitar player.

The quad cortex practical I/O they chose for the QC is the best hands down.

Lastly, the small footprint and aesthetic of the quad cortex is just PRO looking.

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Gotta admit I think they made an error excluding the scribble strips on the regular stadium. I really want the scribble strips but don’t want the integrated expression pedal. I prefer to plug a couple in off to the side so you can put them where you want.

I really thought when announced I would pull the trigger on the stadium xl… now I’m not so sure. I might be staying with the QC for the long haul.

I think how Proxy sounds is gonna be the kicker for me.

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The I/O of the Stadium is actually amazing. I can’t see how it’s worthless tbh.

It’s awesome you can even expand the outputs of it. This is perfect for running click and backing tracks without needed external gear. They really did an amazing job with expanding the I/O to be very useful. I can’t see a reason the complain about it.

While I love the QC, holy shit are the 1/4” jacks positioned horribly. Try fitting anything in those that aren’t just straight cables, and it’s a nightmare on a board. There’s barely any room for angled cables. I’ve tried so many types of patch cables to get them to fit correctly and it’s barely useable if you want to use the fx loops, output 3/4, and the two inputs at once. Handy to have those, but wow did anyone actually test how crammed those are? Haha

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That is true. Right angle jacks are near impossible. I was able to use some by building up the height of the QC off the board using a few layers of dual lock so you can put them straight up and down.

I really wish the fix was this simple haha. It’s still an issue whether there’s a rise or not. I have my QC positioned so it lines up with an open space in my Pedaltrain, so there’s a bunch of room under it in front.

Unfortunately they barely left any room to fit right angle cables with their jack placement, so it’s nearly impossible to get everything in there. The cables cut into the space for the jacks around them. I wish the fix was as simple as having extra room under it, but it’s a huge design flaw of the device itself.

I sometimes wonder how much product testing they did prior to release in order to see how practical the size was haha

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Thats exactlly how I feel. The QC amp moddles and pedals sound great but the limited switching and general attidute of the company and certain forum mods really have given me reson to doubt the promises made.

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I have my Stadium XL pre-oredered. Even though I love my QC, I 100% plan to change over to it when I get it. Not because the QC can’t do what I need it to do in my band, but because I just want to use a new toy. Getting a little peeved with the slow pace of updates, too, but it is what it is. NDSP have clearly given up on the hardware/firmware front and are now more or less just begrudgingly pushing out just enough updates to not be sued by some consumer protection agency, but their heart clearly isn’t in it anymore (it’s in their plugins, where it’s always been). I think they realized they bit off more than they can chew with a hardware unit. It’s a decent unit, but it was supposed to be the modeler to end all modelers. We’re 5 years in and it’s STILL not where it was promised to be at release.

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I sold my QC ages ago and I’m currently looking for a modeler. The sounds from the Stadium did not convince me at all… funny enough I had a dream this last night that I was touring again with the QC and the first gig went the same as the one that led me to sell it… so not a good sign (I did consider getting another QC for a while but the models sound and limited foot switching, the flimsy adaptor make me consider otherwise…).

Maybe try a Nano and some analoge pedals. I switched from the QC to the Nc and bought some external footswitches, some normal pedals and I‘m very happy with it.

As for the stadium, I think I will look at it closer 6 month after its release. Then there will be capturing and all the other features. At launch it looks more like a helix with better amp models

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Yeah I think the kicker for me is how do the proxy captures sound and feel. I love how the QC has captured my amp and it just feels so good to play. I was on the preorder list for the stadium but canceled the order to give it some time to see how proxy does.

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