I think NDSP is prioritizing sellable plug-in capabilities (spelled recurring revenue) over everything else.
All brands have users clamoring for feature updates, even Fractal and Line6.
I don’t know where the QC will end up, but I sure hope to see more development beyond plugins which I have zero interest in.
I certainly hope that Neural-Cortex product support doesn’t become the Headrush variety. They killed me with their Looper Board. Yamaha / Line 6 is ahead of the curve, but the price is extreme!
The price really isn’t extreme for the Stadium. The unit that’s similar to the QC is almost the same price, with way more capabilities (at least according to the specs). Fractal gear will run you the same, if not more tbh. A Kemper (non powered) head with a footswitch will be about the same as well. Realistically there’s no need for the Helix Stadium with an expression pedal, since you can get one for less than the price difference of the two models.
but then you lose the scribble strips.
Would rather save space on a board if they have a view similar to the QC on the screen. I’m viewing the cheaper one as the direct competitor to the QC since it also doesn’t have scribble strips, an expression pedal built in, and is about the same price.
Hey there …agreed.
I was a Helix fan for ever and then turned to QC for the sound but then came face to face with all the complaints. Thought people were complaining for no reason but then I had the same issues. No updates , all they do is advertise their Apps ….and no one listening to the customers…. Then they ban me from this forum for having an opinion…after having spent thousands of dollars with them…
So Helix has just given me the reason to make the change . QC. Is a great product but the guys who make the decisions are not responsive enough to their customers nor do they honour their commitments. The Helix team on the other hand, listen and keeps to their word with consistent updates… & upgrades.
They are definitely raising the game ….
So they have made it easy for me …
Exactly!
I cannot get it around my head that Neural is ignoring since years the very loud wishes for improvements of the footswiches (assign them to whatever and how much you want) for more macro control, MIDI expansion, and better snapshot/stomp hybrid workflows and of course the possibility to store several loops and use playback…
All of which should be technically possible and would make it the best device again…
Agreed except we don’t know that NDSP is ‘ignoring’ the request(s), they just haven’t implemented those specific QOL requests yet, otherwise it’s just speculating. IMO, the QC is future-proof, the architecture has the right I/O and hopefully within time, NDSP will deliver on all the QOL requests and hopefully PCOM (whether owners want it or not). I might get the new Helix just because I like gear to try etc. I like the QC’s footprint size, I like that the QC can capture locally (roughly 4 mins) and does not require being tied to the internet and or a PC/Mac to complete that process. All gear has some limitations but if your gear isn’t working for your workflow, it’s probably time to investigate a replacement. The realization is that NDSP will not provide an update that is inclusive of everyone’s wants and desires in the next one or two updates. Only NDSP is aware of what & when is coming next. I suspect some owners will move to the Helix and hopefully all goes well. There will always be another product that meets your expectations just around the corner. Currently, I prefer the NDSP eco-system. With the QC and Nano, I have what I need. 
If you were banned or sent on a mini-vacation, you must have broken forum rules, plain and simple. If you wish to discuss more, use the DM.
Sorry you are having issues and hope you have great luck in whatever direction you take gear wise!
Obviously not everyone has the same issues but that doesn’t matter if it messes with your overall production and work-flows. Life is short, enjoy it while you can and with the gear that works best for you.
Not to stray too far from the point, but has anyone played Line 6’s first foray into the digital amp realm - the AxSys 2x12 combo? Obviously we’re in a different era of gear, but one thing I will give credit to them for is forward-thinking ideas. That was in the mid 90s, and here we are 30 years later… the thing had different cab models, and the Line 6 ‘Floor Board’ that definitely inspired their later forays into floor modellers, Helix included. Curious what people would’ve said about that back then if forums existed 
This. Why are we not allowed to hear a sample of the new algorithm ?
Quad Cortex sounds miles above a Helix. Its all going to come down to if this new algorithm is going to match the Quad. Helix is the worst sounding platform outside of maybe a headrush. I undertand why people gravitate to it for utility reasons . But the sound isnt close.
The Quad even makes the Kemper sound digital.
When “worst” Word compares, a lot of us have a precognition
Mrserv0n can you post a sample of Miles Better sound? (I think…no) Thank you
I had the mighty Johnson Millennium Stereo 150 - a 2 x 12 combo, based around a Digitech valve pre-amp FX processor. It was absolutely awesome, years ahead of its time. It was heavy and loud and moved a lot of air, and the build quality was out of this world. I even had the matching 2 x 12 extension cab, glorious!
But eventually it lost out to Line 6, it was a bit like the Betamax/VHS thing; the Johnson was arguably a better product but for whatever reason didn’t survive as modelling started to rapidly evolve…
One thing to think about with regard to sound quality in the helix is that not all amp models are the same quality.
Its earliest amp models from 2015 don’t sound great. But as they released new models they became better and better. Particularly the bassman they released a year or two ago was quite impressive.
Also when they redid the cab block a couple years ago that made a HUGE difference. I actually really like the cabs in the helix.
So hearing overarching comments regarding sound quality of helix is hard for me to interpret.
I do feel that the quality of models across all blocks in the QC is more uniform than in the helix.
the Mod made clear it was fine to proceed, and it was till a user called him out- that’s pretty much Rule #1 in any forum; take it to DMs if you have a disagreement with the mod- that’s internet etiquette 101.
Please keep posts on topic. Thanks!
Got the QC 6 months ago, haven’t got a single update, some features which were promised at launch are still missing 
I hope this increases pressure on Neural to speed up development on the QC.
We know. We all feel the pain
