So I’ve been wanting a way to switch in various stereo effect pedals within the QC’s effects loop. I’ve settled on this and just got the board back together and it’s alive!
I’ve had the Morningstar MC6 pro for a while but I just added the loop switcher. So I go stereo out of the effect send of the QC into the ML10x. H90, LVX, and bigsky are in loops of the ML10x in stereo.
ML 10x allows me to run them in series or parallel and rearrange order. Can turn off each loop easily or load a preset for a particular patch.
I’m loving this so far. Just wanted to share in case anyone else was thinking about this.
The QC is amazing but now I can put these other effects inside the QC and still use the QCs multiple outputs and routing options. I’m loving it.
Hey mate, slightly unrelated but how do you find the H90? How’s the quality of the effects compared to the QC, and is the hefty price worth it? Cheers!
I really like it to fill in some of the gaps in the QC.
I love that it has 4 ins and outs on the back so what I do is run one in/out mono in front of the QC (for pitch effects/synth/phaser which I like in front) and then a stereo in/out that I put in the QCs stereo effects loop (using the ML10x).
That way the h90 lets you run the two available algorithms either both mono before the QC, both stereo in the effects loop of one of each. Midi is pretty straightforward. The editor is nice. But programming from scratch on the unit is tough. Making tweaks is pretty easy on the unit.
Sound wise it’s great and has a huge wealth of options. For a lot of my core sounds I can get pretty close on the QC and the QC stands up really well for what it has. For instance the H90 has a flanger sound I love but I can get close with the QC flanger engine.
I love the polysynth algorithm. Can’t wait for the Rabea synth to come to the QC. When it does I may not need it anymore and might try to part with it. The price tag is steep but I do feel like it’s worth it. For all those people that have/had two H9s on their board the H90 is even more flexible.
Yo! This is super close to the setup I’m shooting for. I’ve been laying out the wiring diagram and getting my head around a few things.
Essentially I want to run the QC as amp sim + cab with split for FOH and amp + cab for volume, be able to switch the pre’s or bypass (swap amp sim for the real thing), and then have stereo inserts. Ideally I could have pre-amp effects in-front of the “amp” and have post effects (and switch the order around, since the h90 can do pre and post “modulated” effects pretty well and thinking dual insert in this situation (but interested if you have any ideas/concerns there))
In the mail is the MC8 Pro, but yesterday, I got the ML10X, with the h90 and meris mercury x (hope you’re digging the LVX, I might pick one up later but I have some priorities first). So you’ve got the closest setup from anyone I’ve come across.
I’d love to run some questions by you. Because I can’t track that many I/O loops, I’ve resorted to a signal flow diagram to get it out of my head. I’m working on one here: Draw.io Diagram
IDK. I’m somewhat stuck (though determined to resolve my issue) and wondering where you’re placing things in the circuit. It might confirm some of my assumptions.
That is gonna be quite a rig! One thing to consider is your current setup won’t allow your wet post effects (h90 and Mercury x) to both go to FOH and onstage amps. To do that you’ll need to put the ML10x into the QC effects loop I think… let me think some more on this and get back to ya!
TLDR: I was in a tangle, and the way out is to get another loop switch, one for pre fx and have the ml10 as post-fx in the amp loop.
So, I think I went back to the drawing board a few times with this one, and what I landed on is a little different than my initial solution. Here’s what I’m currently landing on and I think I’m feeling more confident with this one: Routing Diagram
I was running into some issues trying to shoehorn the QC inside the Morningstar loop, and eventually it hit me… I’ll run the morningstar in the amp fx loop as a dedicated wet effect matrix just like you said. I currently have the dry fx in serial running into front of QC. One of those effects is the h90’s first input set (mono in this case), and the h90 is set to dual routing mode… which I misunderstood at first. Now i realize how great that is, since you can actually change the routing mode per-preset. So if I have more drive or modulation options, that can go parallel/serial out ch 1+2 before the amp, or all wet can go after in the amp loop.
So the final result for what I want, would be to have one loop switch in the fx loop, and one in the front of the amp, with the QC situated right in the middle and handling the audio output and amp sim/pre-amp swapper. This also makes it way less complicated as far as signal flow.
Let me know what you think. I realize the more complicated these setups get, the less anyone is going to understand, so I appreciate someone like you who’s gone down a similar path. Thank you!
I’m thinking I definitely like/want to go down the 2nd ML10x route. I saw something from a clip of Aaron Intervals talking about running fuzz in parallel with drive and now I just want to be able to route my signals any way I want. I’m thinking of potentially picking up one of the polyend press compressors for sidechain reasons for pushing one signal behind another when in parallel as well. I just like the options that could be available. For now I have to wait for finishing the rig as I need to shift income to other budget items. But, here’s the current state of the build.
The backside needs some cable management but I don’t wanna lock it down just yet. I will have to move the DC7 towards the front a bit to make room for the pre fx loop. For now I’m super happy with the sound and ease of integrating anything down the road.
I had an ML10X briefly and maybe I just didn’t spend enough time with it, but I feel like there was a significant signal loss using it. Now that I have another LVX on the way (owned one previously), looking to trade my black Microcosm for another MercuryX (also previously owned) and still keep my HX One, H90 and get another Mood mkii… the ML10X is sounding like a good option again…
I think I ran into something similar. I found out that the ml10x runs at either 9v or 18v. When I switched to 18 it solved that issue for me. YMMV but it’s absolutely worth a try.
I really wish I could squeeze the lvx on here. I might get unhinged and put a pedal or two underneath to make space.
