Dumbbell ODS

Hi Pete! Sorry for the delay to reply you, I was traveling. I was editing directly on the QC, I don’t use CC. Yesterday I ran more tests using only the amp and cab blocks and had no issues. Later today I will run more tests using more blocks and give you all a feedback, ok? Thanks!

Hello.

Yesterday I tried the Dumbbell model for the first time. I tried it with both Two Rocks 212s.

Not what I expected. My fault, probably. I have to try again.

Any other speaker recommended instead of the two rocks?

Thank you!

No problem, Leo. Thanks for letting us know. Sounds like the problem is with with the QC software, not CC. I’m not seeing other problems with the update so hopefully NDSP can resolve this issue and have a new, updated update quickly.

I’ve been playing it again today. It sounds good but… it sounds compressed to me. In a good way, but I expected more dynamics. The response to attack is ok. Strange

Interesting. The clean channel sounds compressed too?

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Not really. Clean channel sounds as expected.

What I mean with “compressed” is that I expected a lot of dynamics in the OD channel (with just a touch of gain) and there are not. Maybe that’s the way the real amp works (I’m afraid we’ll never know by ourselves).

The Eq controls are subtle.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for your review. Concerning the EQ, remember that engaging the “Boost" switch bypasses the tone stack (EQ) so the EQ will nolonger work. Not sure if you are using the Boost function.

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Yes, I’ve tried all modes, but thank you for the advice. Having so many emulations available I don’t need all of them have a great EQ amplitude. I’m sure they have done a very good job with the ODS and I’ll hope I’ll find my way with it.

Oh; if I’m not wrong, with the Boost engaged, the Eq still have some effect, very little; at least it increases the noise floor. But I have to confirm this.

As with any amp model or capture, no matter how accurately they were created, I’m sure the Dumble isn’t for everyone. I look forward to trying it out to see if it suits my taste.

I loaded v3.3.0 a few days ago and have been playing around with the Dumble model (haven’t tried the captures yet) and I’m really enjoying it. I know the D-ODS is voiced “mid-forward" but it seems like that may be a little exagerated with this model. Maybe it was the particular example NDSP modeled. Anyway, a little post-amp EQ can solve that. I’m still playing around with cab blocks but I’m really enjoying the general tone and response of this new model in clean and OD. Highly recommended!

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Hey all, nice to read your comments. My rig is a little different…I use my QC live thru a stereo pair of cabs, each with it’s own power amp. I basically use ONLY the preamp section so no speaker/mic emulation. I’ve been playing through the ODS for a few hours now and am really enjoying the clean sound, it’s dynamic and feels very nice under my fingers. I am however having problems with the OD sound. Maybe it’s just the way my rig is set up but it feels as though it’s got an overdrive sitting ON TOP of the clean sound so when I dial-in the overdrive and play softly I get a nice crunch…but the moment I dig in the clean sound punches through, like there’s a compression ducker on the OD. It’s almost the opposite of the way it should work. Like most here I’ve never had the opportunity to play through one of these BUT I’m lucky enough to have a friend who has one so the phone call to him has been made!

In any case…IF there’s anyone out there with a similar setup please let me know how things are going for you with the ODS!

Thanks!

Huh? That’s a strange one. Are you running any kind of side-chain that’s tapped in before the amp block? Perhaps another lane that’s feeding the same outputs as the one with the Dumble block?

Hey Pete, no I have things setup like normal…just added the ODS. I played with it for a bit but couldn’t seem to get rid of the clean sound. Maybe you’re right…I’ll look a bit more in-depth tomorrow, something’s gotta be wrong! Thanks

Truly odd. Please keep us posted.

I’ve been experiencing the same exact thing. Except one thing to add, the sound will intermittently cutout if you change something on another block. There must be a bug in this amp model.

Maybe you can post a sound sample and your settings so that we can check if we have the same behavior

OK, I figured it out, I had the ODS block sitting on the Splitter so one side was going out clean and the other was the ODS…DUH! So stupid I was almost too ashamed to post a reply :face_with_spiral_eyes:. Anyway ALL GOOD! I’m looking forward to spending LOTS of time seeing what this thing can do!

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No shame, my friend! I can see why you were frustrated.

I set up a couple of presets around the Dumble model. I had to use a post-cab EQ to tame those mids but, so far, I’m really loving this model. I have rehearsals with two bands today and tomorrow. I’m looking forward to hearing how my new presets sit in the mix. I’ll report back after.

Thanks for updating us on your progress.

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I’ve tried the Dumble ODS, both the clean and overdrive. The clean is sweet, out of the box. I had to tinker with the overdrive a bit to get it to something I liked. I didn’t switch to jazz mode at any time, and didn’t have the problem mentioned. Overall, the tones were beautiful. :heart:

Agreed! I only played with the clean channel for a few minutes and, I liked it but no more so than the clean Lonestar and AC30 presets I’m currently using. I should spend a little more time with it. I finally got to try out a couple of moderately overdriven Dumble presets at band rehearsals the last two nights. They sound fantastic!

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