Please add some NC amp models to Nano witch can be used instead of neural captures. Taking into account Nano’s limited signal chain, this addition will not interfere with other products (such as QC and QC mini) but will make Nano looks stronger and finished compared with other devices on market (modern chinese options with integrated NAM profiles). Neural Capture technology is great, but sometimes we need to have more control of a tone. Thanks in advance!
They’ve always said the nano won’t get amp models
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I hope that this is not carved in to stone. They are already add some OD pedal modeles. So, why not? Im prety sure that this will not interfere with the other NeuralDSP devices because of different dsp power, in/outs, parallel processing etc.
They’ve only ever made the Nano to be a capture player, and not a modeler. The DSP for an amp model is way different than an OD pedal
Its not about plugins. Im ok with that fact that they will not be included in future firmwares. There are amp models in QC that use amp modeling technology and it’s definitely the same technology that NDSP uses for pedals modelling that already included in latest Nano Cortex firmware.
Amp models aren’t going to be on the Nano though
I’d also love to see amp modeling added to the Nano. If it only runs a small selection of commonly used amp models, it wouldn’t interfere with the existing Quad Cortex lineup.
I’m not sure why you’re so confident about this topic. I didn’t find any information online that NeuralDSP said that amp models would never be added for Nano. Amp models uses the same technology as pedal models, they use less DSP power than captures (that’s how it works for devices that use NAM, i think it’s the same here), so why not.
Amp models on QC use more DSP than captures (at least the V1 captures).
I’m confident in it because everyone online was talking about this when the Nano came out and there were no amp models for it.
Also the link I sent shows Neural specifically saying the nano doesn’t do amp modeling and does captures haha
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When Nano Cortex came out, the market was completely different—the only competitors were Tonex and Kemper Player. Now, it’s hard to impress anyone with the use of neural captures. Therefore, in my personal opinion, the only reason why this feature wouldn’t be added is technological limitations. The link you provided specifically refers to plugins. So, I see no reason why we can’t request this feature. And I think the guys at NeuralDSP understand this themselves. It’s a great idea to turn Nano Cortex into a stripped down and totaly simplified version of Quad Cortex, instead of capture player only.
I think this is why they made the QC mini. The Nano does seem to have limitations, which is why it only does captures, has a specific signal path, not as many effects at the QC, etc.
This is the best idea yet…. I prefer amp models, personally.
Well, if it is not limited by the hardware of the device, models should be welcome without a doubt.
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It says it right here:
“This is because Neural DSP plugins use amp modeling technology, which differs significantly from the Neural Capture technology that Nano Cortex uses.”
The Nano Cortex is designed to work around a capture with a fixed signal chain and very few pre-selected blocks. Just like the Tonex Pedal and various NAMM loaders, it’s not a modeller. I am not against this feature request, I just think it’s not going to happen for those reasons.
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Those are the most CPU hungry drive blocks the Nano Cortex can load. Right next to it are amp blocks. Just to show the CPU difference.
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Hi! Just to clearly my point of view. I don’t know if there are some real difference between NeuralDSP modeling technology and other devices on market - just for example - when NAM profiles were added to Hotone devices, the result was that captures was more dsp hungry than modeled amps. And the second idea - overdrive pedals were allready added to Nano and this is definitely modeling technology so I’m not really sure that it’s technologicaly impossible. NeuralDSP guys may not want to add this feature for some marketing reasons but it doesn’t mean that they really can’t..)
I also don’t know if it is completely impossible. But NDSP captures use way less CPU than models. And the QC has lots more models of drive pedals that didn’t even make it to the NC, even though they use way less CPU than amp models.
So if this feature request was implemented, it would probably mean you would have to sacrifice pretty much all other effects from your signal chain. Which would just lead to chaos and ultimately hurt the NC more than it would improve it.
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You’re missing the point that the Nano is meant to compete with cheaper stuff like the Tonex, etc. It wasn’t ever an amp modeler. It’s a capture player. Also it’s way cheaper than the Mini and QC, so it makes sense. Amp blocks use a lot of DSP, and Neural is different algorithms/tech than NAM stuff. It’s pointless to compare them because they’re all configured differently. We might as well ask for Neural to add Helix models
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I’d like to have the Eventide H9000 in my Tonex One 
Nano cortex can use V2 captures though. Surely, they are close to amp model cpu requirements (at least for some models)?