Hello all. I’m new to Neural plugins and I’m having what appears to be a common issue, based on many hours of my own research. I thought I’d reach out to the community for assistance.
I’ve tried every type of gain staging, using a DI box, changing cables, different guitars, different preamps when using a direct box (API, Neve, CAPI, Cranbourne Audio, BAE, and Focusrite), different circuits for my power conditioners, et. al. I’ve scoured YouTube and forums and I’ve tried all that they recommend (for those I found) and I still cannot get a usable sustained palm mute out of this standalone app and plugin - there’s just too much noise.
I know it’s possible to use amp sims with my setup because Helix Native works near perfectly with similar high gain settings. I’m desperately looking for tips to remove noise when letting a palm mute ring out on a patch like Misha Mansoor > Solid Rhythm for example, or crafting a lead tone. I’ve tried in standalone and as an insert in my DAW.
With Helix Native I do get the occasional RF or computer noise, but the noise floor is so low it’s easy to edit out when mixing.
Idk how to help other than turn down the gain and turn up the noisegate. I noticed it was really noisy as well when I tried the trial version. Good luck.
Hi, I’m no sure about your situation but my little experience with plugin (only have Parallax ) and the Quad Cortex makes me think that NDSP products are just noisy, way more than other brands (In my case Kemper who is dead silent on the exact same system.)
Probably too much gain and some sloppy technique. Realistically the. Neural plugins have a ton of gain on the default settings. The numbers aren’t going to be the same for settings between Helix and Neural
Thanks for sharing. I have fret wraps and foam behind the nut on my guitars. They’re both great. I play fixed bridge, mostly hipshot.
As for sloppy technique and too much gain mentioned above, neither are the issue. I understand the differences between amp sims can be drastic. I’ve compensated for the differences to the degree that I can with the settings. This is something unique to this Neural plugin on my system.
If anyone has the plugin and can successfully let a palm mute ring out without a high noise floor on medium high gain, I’d appreciate if you’d be so kind to share your settings. Thanks again.
the only thing I see that makes much difference is cranking the Precision Drive Gate and the input noise gate. I can just about dial out the papery/static noise during the note decay, but of course it eats most of the decay/sustain as well. Other than slicing out more hiss with the EQ, making sure there’s no compression, and pulling the mics back I’m not sure what else you could do. High-gain tones are apparently NOISY on this one
If anyone is interested, I tried everything under the sun to no avail when trying to diagnose the noise issue. I ran a cable and connected to a direct box in a completely different room and that still didn’t work.
However, I did find a workaround: Izotope RX 11 Standard. This removed all of the noise, even without the gate on, and I can now use this plugin for recording. I’ve had the Izotope suite for years and this is the first time I’ve used it for guitar. I’m glad I stumbled upon a few YouTube videos about using RX to clean up what would normally be an unusable signal to noise ratio.
Thanks for the tip, maybe NDSP can add something similar directly to the plugin and the QC, in fact i’m very surprised that the noise is not a bigger problem and concern for NDSP users, it was the thing that i noticed the most in the begining and makes me almost leave the boat at that time.