Who is using LooperX live (or wants to)? What's hindering you?

I’m a solo performer (acoustic + vocals) who depends heavily on looper capability. After this thread discussing a LooperX bug:
https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/looper-x-pre-roll-and-recording-length-dont-work-until-quantize-parameter-is-toggled/

I thought it would be good to see who else is performing live with LooperX (or wants to but is hindered by a particular bug or impeded functionality). So, please, let me know how you loop and what would be better in the LooperX!

I’d like to keep this thread focused on easily fixable / achievable functionality – for instance, the bug listed above, and potential workarounds. Something bigger, like multitrack looping, I would consider out of scope for this topic.

To follow up, I REALLY would love if the LooperX Recording Length parameter could be controlled via MIDI message. Right now I have to create several different copies of each preset to manage songs of different loop lengths. It’s a huge pain point for me.

This bug screws me up to and has mostly kept me from using the looper. Also, the fact that I hear the metronome when the looper is recording, even though it is muted in the Tempo settings.

This is with the newest update as well.

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I’ve also learned that the metronome during the preroll and recording can’t be turned off. I won’t be using any prerolled looper live because I don’t want listeners hearing a click. Super annoying.

I actually prefer having the click always on when recording with quantize enabled so I get a nice tight loop. When quantize is not on, I don’t hear the click when recording a loop, so maybe that would work for you?

Also, you can change the routing of the metronome on the metronome page so the click doesn’t show up in your main outputs (this is what I do - I either route it to headphones or output 3/4 depending on needs).

Holy smokes!! Thank you! Changing the routing did it for me! I changed it to headphones (which I don’t use), so that did it! :slight_smile:

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Awesome, glad that helped!

You can also disable each specific beat, as described in this thread, in case you ever need your outputs for something besides click routing:

One thing… when I loop, I use different fx for each loop. Clean for a foundation loop, then maybe ambient fx for the next ‘layer’, then maybe a bass line ( a la pitch shifting down) for the next layer, etc.

Well… since users DO NOT have control over each footswitch, I can’t assign record/overdub to one footswitch, stop recording to another footswitch, and presets to the other footswiches.

Giver your users full and complete control for each footswitch independently - Thank you!!

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Agreed, I would like this, too. My preferred mode is Scene, but I’m forced to perform in Stomp due to this limitation.

In Stomp mode, you can work around this a bit by using the MIDI jumper trick (connect MIDI in to MIDI out port), and then assign MIDI commands (record start/stop, overdub, etc.) to certain footswitches without assigning effects to them. It might not be enough for what you want to do, but it’s something.

You can probably also get a little creative in Hybrid mode this way, but it doesn’t match my footswitch needs very well.

The thing that opened up the looper for me was the realization that if you set the routing to multi and your loop is playing, you can switch to any preset with a (same routing) looper in it without a gap, so you can layer up any sound the qc is capable of producing and then head back to the mother preset. I’ve been having fun since I realized that!

I’m trying this on my MINI that showed up today and I can’t get the preroll to work at all. Very frustrating.

Do you know of a video showing this?

all you do is put a looper (with routing set to multi) in all the presets you want to switch between, there is no noticeable gap as long as your loop is playing. For factory presets you have to copy them over to your User Banks first.

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The bug that makes Looper X useless for me is how the quantization/bars setting doesn’t work. If you save it to a preset and change to it, hitting record on the looper just… keeps recording. It doesn’t honor the number of bars set. You have to open the looper, toggle the selected number of bars, then record. Happens every single time.

Other users have said the same.

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It sucks for sure because I can’t use it like I would normally want to. I can only use it for abstract ambient loops. I can’t do anything with an actual timing to it because I can’'t be fooling around with it at my gigs. I need it to work or I can’t use it.

The best I can do for now is if I have a drum loop going, I can add a washy, reverbed guitar over the top for a random amount of measures, but I can’t use it to record a simple 2 or 4 bar riff.