Anyone have experience using QC through the victory power valve 200 and cab? I use a laney frfr on stage and outputs to foh. But not enjoying the laney, thinking of a change and this stood out.
Thanks
What don’t you like about the Laney?
I’ve been giving them a hard look and would appreciate you opinion.
Sure. I’m not 100% sure if somethings wrong with mine but it lacks treble. There’s a high pass filter pot on the back of it and I have to turn it right up most of the way. Our bass player uses a line 6 hex stomp into the fender frfr cab, I’ve had time with it and I think it’s much better. Better how​
… just more life to the sound. What put the powervalve into my head was a video on Anderson’s YouTube where they compare the laney and fender frfr cabs and the powerslave starting off with a blind test. I picked out the laney and the sound I liked least, the fender was good but I liked the powervalve into a little cab was best for me.. but and here’s the kicker the powervalve & a good cab is way more expensive.
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Thanks for answering.
Since I still have all of my cabinets, a power amp is also an option for me. Investigating all of my options.
Just trying to stay ahead of this situation before it becomes a “hurry the F up, we got a show booked” and I’m scrambling.
Keep in mind that this is a solid-state power amp. The valve behaves more like a preamp tube and doesn’t replicate the sound or feel of a true tube power amp. Not that it sounds bad—it is what it is—but there is a noticeable difference between a solid-state power amp and a valve power amp. In my view, the advertising is somewhat misleading on that point.
At the moment, the only products that seem to narrow that gap are the Wampler Pedal Head and the Friedman IR-Load, though they are not yet available.
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Also you’ll want to know that it’s only 200 watts at 4 ohms. It’s way less otherwise. 100 watts at 8ohms and 50 at 16 ohms. So dumb that these brands can’t properly advertise power amps. Solid state 50 watts is basically useless
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Solid state 50W in a 16-ohm cab is $&%€ing loud, honestly.
I agree that it’s annoying, that power amps like this are marketed a particular way–Maximum Wattage!–but users really have to read the fine print.
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Just really lacks the low end punch/depth at the lower wattage
To take it a step further:
If you’ve got a 4x12 cab rated for 16 ohms, the four speakers in it are likely to be 16-ohm each, and wired in a series-parallel configuration. (I used to own an Orange PPC412 which is wired this way.)
Take your four 16-ohm speakers and wire them all in parallel–now you’ve got a 4-ohm load and can take advantage of all 200W available in the Power Valve 200. Hopefully your speakers are rated high enough to handle 50W each in this scenario.
It’s easy to point the finger at amplifiers when talking about wattage, but your cab choice matters just as much.
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For Laney:
It’s legit the best response I have gotten from a modeler. Hell I have better bass response than actual tube amps. I pulled out my Mesa Boogie mark V the other day and put it on Mesa cab. Then I plugged my Fractal in to Laney and I was genuinely shocked how much I liked the tone of the modeler compared to the actual amp and how convenient it was to just switch scenes to move from cleans to leads to rhythm.
Keep the Laney HF cut at 0 (which is mid way for it).
Use condenser or SM57 on the cabs in your modeler for the high frequency response.
Yes it’s not the same as a cab but I believe it is less shrill and more true to recording.
It sounds deep but that’s because the PHYSICAL construction of the unit - it’s has depth and thick solid wood.
Power valve or whatever matters less if you are going to plug it in to 1x12 again. If I planned on playing a 4x12 - I’d get something like that. But for everything else - Laney rocks.
Since you watch Andertons, Joh Cochrean had an FRFR shoot and preferred Laney - he uses it primarily I believe. Guthrie Govan uses Laney.
Do some eq to fit your needs and save some money for pizza - is my take away at least..
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For what it’s worth, I sometimes run my Quad Cortex into a Rocktron Velocity 300 and from there into a Randall 4x12 cabinet with Jaguar speakers. As long as you turn off cabinet modeling, you should be good with just about anything you throw at it.
I’ve also ran it in a 4 cable method into a tube head and it sounds good that way as well.
Maybe it’s just the speaker portion for ya?
You wrote exactly what I would have written 
I would really like to try out Wampler Pedal Head and the Friedman IR-Load. Until now I used tube power amps, it’s just different…. I guess it’s someting in the dynamics.
I’m also suspicios about the Victory Power Valve, but who knows? My fellow guitar player in the band ordered one, so I’ll be able to try it.
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Let us know if you like it
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I recently got a Powervalve and I really enjoy it. Initially, I was using my QC with the 4 cable method with a bigger pedal board. I do some gigs where I just use the QC and the powervalve is super handy. I just run my QC into the pv and then into my 16 ohm 50 watt cab. I do split the signal path before I hit the outputs on the QC and can send the XLR’s to FOH through a cab sim.
I definitely like the feel and response of it with the Valve React Circuit engaged. It’s extremely easy to use, I don’t have to hustle with letting the tubes warm up or cool down like a traditional tube amp. You just flip it on and go. Personally, it’s most under rated feature is the output level knob. I can get a consistent tone at bedroom, practice or gig levels. It’s pretty much an attenuator.
Also, it’s convenient that it takes a balanced input which matches up with the outputs on the QC
Unfortunately, I haven’t used an frfr speaker before. So I don’t have an experience to compare. But I don’t think there is a shortage of treble by any means. I leave all the tone snapping knobs at noon and let the speaker do the eq’ing, but there is a knob to boost it, if needed.
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Thanks for the insights.
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I am too suspicious of the victory. As someone here said u can feel the difference. But that pedalhead won’t be until next winter? I don’t want to use my amps continuously for the quad. My amps come first. One doesn’t have a return fx input. Plus, both of those power valve or systems are expensive.
I use my 100 w Marshall jcm 900, return input. Sounds perfect, but is too big and heavy to carry to some gigs. I will wait for the Wampler pedal head or the Friedman ir-load.
I’m not saying it sounds bad, but for me at least, I hear—or better yet, feel—the difference between a tube and a solid-state power amp at band practice volume, and even more so when using a PA speaker.
I’ve tried many different amps in both situations, and the result is always the same: I prefer having a tube power amp. It has nothing to do with the size of the cabinet—I’m using my Mesa Boogie 1x12.
But again, in this matter, everything is very subjective.