This is the exact reason i bought a Drop pedal to run in front of the QC. The Drop is the nest pitch shifter money can buy.
Apparently digitech is coming out with another version with some other bells and whiatles that will be even better.
Edit: i got the pog 3 confused with digitech. I meant to say electro harmonix jas a new pedal.
Very curious what the Digitech update might be. It has been a while since they first released it, so I’m sure a new version would be awesome
Uts the Pog 3. 600 bucks though. Would love to see if its any better than the drop. Has more features of course.
I guess its out now as of a week ago. Im going to have to watch some youtube videos on it. $600 is absolutely ridiculous though. Maybe ill try one of i can find a good price on the used market after awhile.
Pog 3 is Electro-Harmonix. Digitech makes the Drop.
Oh right. Im a dummy 
I’d be curious if it will finally include MIDI. That’s the main reason I wasn’t able to use it with my setup, since everything needs to be in sync: Change a a song on OnSong on iPad, iPad sends MIDI via Bluetooth to my device, presets/scenes/tuning changes.
I’m not saying I’d switch back to Fractal if the new Drop has MIDI (especially since I need additional features other than just transposing up/down complete semitones) as I still like to have my all-in-one rig that I get with the QC, but it’d at least make the FM3 rig a tenable option as a backup.
To me the Transpose block works fine for clean or dirty stuff if you only play power chords or chords that only contain the root, 3rd and 5th. Where it gets weird is with sus chords, 7th chords etc. That makes it kind of usable for me but it did not kick my Drop pedal off my board.
Sucks because it feels better latency wise to use Transpose vs a separate pedal like the Digitech or Poly Capo. I use both effects loops, so I really would prefer to lower the latency by using Transpose
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the effects loops added more latency than just running the Drop or Poly Capo in front of the QC.
Which is why I want to keep the latency down
No, you’re right. Each A/D or D/A conversion adds a couple ms; that’s why it’d be best to pop the Drop before the QC and not have it in a loop; would cut the additional latency in half, although would still add some.
I tested qc transpose and plugin transpose back to back, with extended chords they pretty much have the same artifacts
Absolutely, aside from having the pitch shifter like that be first in the chain so it’s the most accurate. I use the effects loops for other stuff, so kinda already stuck with the latency those add
Well, not entirely pertinent to this thread, but following up on my comment from earlier, Cliff responded to my thread on the FAS forums asking for an improved Pitch block; unfortunately, he closed the thread and moved it to where it will be buried forever, never to be seen again, but he did write: “We’ll take a look when we get some time. Thread closed.” - little miffed that it’s a half blow-off, but who knows? At least it’s on his radar. Perhaps, since NDSP folks don’t seem to visit this forum, emailing them directly for pitch shifting improvements might actually get them to turn their attention to it a bit…
I was looking forward to having the transpose feature right on-board the QC. Our band plays songs in different tunings and I’ve been using my Digitech Drop/Whammy pedal for this which has worked pretty flawlessly for me. The issue with this is remembering to turn it on, and off between songs and even some that are adjusted the other direction than the previous song. So having this block on the QC was something I was really looking forward to.
I’m able to use the transpose from the QC on some songs that are simple in general, but then I have to fall-back on my DT for some that just don’t work well with the transpose on the QC for one reason or another.
I too use both effects loops. Alongside my QC is a Jerry Cantrell Wah, the DT Whammy/Drop Tune, and an EHX attack/decay. I don’t expect the QC to necessarily take the place of everything, however; it’s a bit disappointing to have features that only work sometimes.
Oh… and yes… it’s first in the chain
New video with Ola and he even mentions the artifacts transpose has. Start around 5:25- 6:10 and you can hear him use transpose with a clean sound. The artifacts are pretty clear, and he gives an honest opinion of the effect. Also it’s a good way to see what the artifacts sound like, since lots of people don’t know what to listen for.
He also compares the transpose in the QC and the plugin around 7:07 with the guitar DI. You can hear the plugin and QC version sound the same and are pretty glitchy.
I just got the QC and the purchase was partially motivated by my Digitech HarmonyMan HM-2 breaking. After seeing demos of most of the more recent alternatives (Quintessence, Intelligent Harmony Machine, etc) I was underwhelmed. The demos of pitch effects in the QC also left me concerned it might not be good enough, especially at harmonizing in a key. This has turned out to be true so far in my hands-on experience trying a lot of different ways to get either minivoicer or transpose + pitch correction to work well even on a clean signal or clean eq’ed signal. Nothing I do seems to make the artifacts go away for the intelligent pitch shifting scenario.
However I am enjoying the overall tone, feel and level of non-glitchiness I have been figuring out how to get from two parallel chains of transpose at say +7 and -7 to get an effect like the TC Brainwaves. I am not after a capo style effect though so ymmv.
I am hoping that perhaps by leveraging the new sidechain functionality, they can design pitch effect blocks with a better detection circuit. I really expect a higher quality intelligent pitch shifting effect from QC and hope it comes out in a future release!
Telecaster, strato and lespaul
No issues, very good transpose
Just like the other reply tele strat and 335 and love the transpose feature gives me my baritone sound for the country licks… Loving it…
It sounds like you may have too high of expecations; stacking multiple pitch blocks in a row is bound to multiply artifacts and latency. Also, pitch correction is intended for either fretless instruments or vocals far as I know.
I think you’ll find it’s very good if you use JUST a pitch block or JUST a Transpose block or JUST a pitch correction block.