Hi . Brilliant.
If you don’t mind, which York Cab did you use? I would like to purchase it and give it a run . I have loads of Ownhammer IRs but always keen to try out something new
Thank you
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Now I admit I don’t understand all the complexities of this. But if it was an issue of time, as in allowing the process to take more time for more repetitions to be more accurate, maybe this could be an option during the capturing process. Then those that want the highest accuracy could select the option and allow for the extra time needed.
I’m not unhappy with the current capture quality. I’ve done a lot of captures at my studio and once I felt like I was able to find the procedure that worked the best for me, I have really enjoyed the results. I had a Kemper, and I’ve messed with the ToneX. ToneX does take longer, but their process is a lot different. And uses pre recorded actual guitar di samples.
The idea of being able to keep updating the process on the QC to improve captures seems like a good idea as time moves on. That being said, in it’s present state, when done properly, I don’t feel like the QC captures are inferior in any way.
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To be honest it’s probably more beneficial upgrading the models rather than captures.
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I know I have said it somewhere here before, but to my simple untechnical mind regardless of what may or may not happen on our ability to capture (which I have never done)…
I would think that Neural would have the capacity on their end to make the Models better and then we would receive the benefit of that through the upgrade process. That is assuming that 1. Neural even cares about making the Models better. 2. They provide upgrades of Models and other effects. I don’t really know but maybe “soon.”
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In fact capturing process is really very FAST and EFFICIENT.
The result in approx 5min Is really good, and this means a base good process, shure.
As you said… It can be a option.
I had post a request without success (vote 0 i think) with FOUR quality levels of capturing, for example.
Then the user can decide time and level of qty
They have added updated models a few times already, as well as allowing you to switch between the new and old versions, so it’s definitely something they care about and are already actively doing.
Models are far more useful to me than captures - they sound incredible and are far more tweakable and useable than simple captures. Plus there is no constant scrolling and switching captures to see which is best.
That was also my main reason for hating IRs initially - endless scrolling and trying new ones. Luckily I found one that I love and will be sticking with that forever now. It sounds great and works so I have no reason to change.
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Hi Tom,
I was being a bit critical on my assessment there. Maybe it is the time element that irks me a bit. You are right. Just in the 8 months I have had mine they have done some updates. The big 2.1 is taking more time than I had thought, but again, I am not in the business.
I like the idea of using Models for the same reason you do. Is the IR you are using in the QC or is it something you purchased? Thanks for the interactions here!
The IR was a free download one I found. I think it is called “God’s Cab”, but it’s just a really well done capture of a Vintage 30 speaker (no idea what mics).
Found it, and it sounded exactly how I want mic’d guitars to sound, and have kept it ever since.
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Just simply finding a sound you like and staying with it is wisdom. We have so many choices, not only with our gear but in our modern world. Analysis Paralysis is real! It can be so overwhelming. Of course a person has to actually know what they like first… 
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100% agree. Sure there are things about my current sound I might want to improve/change, but it sounds better than anything I’ve had before, and I am easily happy enough to forget the stress of tweaking so I can just concentrate on playing.
15 shows in with the QC and it hasn’t dropped a beat, with nothing but compliments on the sound too. I’ll take that all day.
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What type of music are you playing? Anything I would know?
Possibly not, heavy post-metal - https://hundredyearoldman.bandcamp.com
I was going to say we don’t have any videos using the QC, but apparently someone recorded one a few weeks back. Both guitars go through one QC, one SD Powerstage 700, then back to cabs behind each of us. (Our vocalist’s pedal also wasn’t working that night and the sound engineer went a little over the top with the reverb).
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Rowdy stuff there! Are you on the right or the left of this vid? My drummer from our worship team went and seen Dream Theater a few nights ago. Tosin Abasi is touring with them! Do you like Animals As Leaders?
Funny. I’m the complete opposite. Granted, not all captures are equal, but eg. Rabea’s SLO100 captures are basically peak SLO100 settings. I spent ages with the model the other weekend trying to match the captures. I just about got there, but it’s basically a single setting that sounds that good. Change anything and it’s muddier, less harmonic overtones, all round not as satisfying…
The great thing about captures is that someone has already put in the work finding the sweet spot of the amp. And they’re easy on CPU, so you can often load 8+ into a single preset to shoot them out. I usually end up with 4 or 5 that I like, and I use them like amp channels basically. Clean, crunch, and 2 ODs.
If you really want to mix it up, chuck an OD pedal or two in front, and your options are pretty much limitless.
Soooo yeah, my vote is improve capture accuracy! 
I’m on the right (big beard).
I know of AaL, but not really my thing. Ridiculously good musicians though, same as Dream Theater.
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I guess I’ve never really experimented much with different amps, or got hung up on their different tones so much. I just used what I had, or bought what would work functionally at the time. Anything Soldano was always way out of my price range.
Although saying that, the SLO model on the QC was my second favourite, but I settled on the VH4 in the end. It does what I need with an OD and volume pedal in front. Would definitely like to have the channels switchable in one block rather than having to use two, but what I have works so it’s all good.
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Love the beard!
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Yeah I mean I will say that some models are definitely better than others. I think the latest ones with the 2.0 update are better. The recto to me still sounds a little weird and not quite there. It’s ok to find decent captures ideally better models would be the best because it’s adaptable at the end of the day.
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A lot of amps have a definite sweet spot. What’s the point of exactly modelled controls if you can’t touch them without compromising something? If something needs adapting, drop the gain and chuck an OD in front.
It almost sounds like you only use a single amp?
I flick between a few depending on my mood. Current hotlist is: SLO, Kraken, Dumble ODS, Nameless, and one with a few tone kings and a nice edge-of-breakup Princeton.
All captures. All excellent.