Can someone please help me set up a preset to send 1/2 FOH and 3 to a power amp/cab on stage? Can you please provide a sample setup? Or preset in Quad? Actually showing the routing?
Thank you.
Can someone please help me set up a preset to send 1/2 FOH and 3 to a power amp/cab on stage? Can you please provide a sample setup? Or preset in Quad? Actually showing the routing?
Thank you.
What I normally do for this type of setup is to add ‘send 1’ as the second to last block and then the ‘cab or IR’ block last. Then the output can be set to multi out. Feed the power amp from send 1.
Edit - Now that I am out of work here is a screen cap of the set up I am talking about.
Here’s an example of how I typically build my presets. I run everything in mono.
Output 3 goes to a power amp (Orange Pedal Baby 100 + Mesa 4x12) and Output 1 goes to FOH. Since my presets are mono, it’s unnecessary to send signal out through outputs 2 and 4.
This is how I route mine. I do a split right before the cab, and that goes to Out 3 into a power amp, into a cab. Row 1 goes to Out 1, Row 2 goes to Out 3, and my bottom row is for vocals and that goes to Out 2. This is a pretty simple setup compared to some, but the concept still applies for what you’re looking for.
Thank you - this is awesome.
In my case - Go In 1 and place all my effects and speaker route to outs 1/2, split out before the speaker, and send to out 3?
Bingo. Godspeed.
it might be good to have a disclaimer if using this sort of configuration as a template that any stereo wet fx (modulations, delays, etc) and the FX Loop won’t necessarily be summed to mono and you could get some weird effects from anything ping-ponging or panning. If everything is mono in the lane, it should be fine but if you swap out for stereo fx or have something stereo in the Loop, changing to a single Output is the only way to guarantee the mono summing won’t miss half of your signal. I imagine you know that, DC, but other users might not realize it.
Interesting thought. I didn’t initially consider that. TY!
Good point. I don’t run stereo but my method will not work for summing to mono. For a stereo rig you can use send 2 for the other channel to get a L and R channel.
I did add a screenshot of my set up in my initial post in the thread.
You can fix that by putting a mixer after the split on the for mono output and pan them both to centre which will sum to mono. This can cause phase issues so you can enable or disable.
Yep, that’s why I also split signal before my IRs, and have different blocks for all time-based effects (Micropitch, delay, reverb), going stereo to the XLR outs (that go to FoH and IEMs) and mono to Out 3 (that goes to a poweramp and 2x12). That way I can fine-tune effects mix for each separately.
Would you be able to snap a photo of that setup? I would love to see it.
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Here’s a link to one of my presets (and older iteration actually, since 3.3.0 I replaced the Doubler block with the Micropitch on the FoH/IEM path routed to Out 1-2):
It’s basically an all-in-one preset that’s the basis for most of my live presets, I just adjust a couple of parameters depending on the song, set the correct tempo and remove unused blocks and scenes. But I could (and actually have) do a whole show with pretty much only that preset.
Out3 goes to whatever amp I have available, going into the FX return.
This is awesome - Thank you so much!!
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My pleasure ![]()
As an aside, if you want to use my preset (or even if you don’t), the main IR I use is Leon Todd’s free Marshall 1960TV IR, found here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/my-main-ir-lt-tv-91056054
I use the 500ms file, as it is normalized, along with a Celestion Pro G12M 4x12 IR, but the Leon Todd on its own is just great.
Very kind of you - thank you so much.
Here’s a basic preset that I use
You could easily make this preset be on the first two rows. You’ll have a lot more latency if you use Row 3+4 and also having a split on Row 3.
This is just an example to help illustrate the output routing to answer the OPs question.
Personally, I like to split up my presets like this in case I want add a bunch of effects before/after the amp. There’s zero latency doing it this way. Not sure where you’re getting that information, but I appreciate your opinion. ![]()
There are latency tests on this forum showing how you’ll get extra latency with each row and split/mixers. Fair to space it this way if you’ll ad a lot of effects, but yes it will have a decent amount of added latency laying it out like this