Dry-control for Looper

Add a dry-control to the Looper to be able to run it in a parallel FX loop and/or send it to a separate output.

Have you checked the routing for the Looper X? On the Looper X block, page 2 on the far right, you can route to the grid, INs, OUTs, returns and MULTI etc.

Yep! However, my understanding is that there‘s still no way to mute the dry signal inside the LooperX independent of the routing. So independent of placement on the grid or In/Out-Blocks the Looper will always output the loop as well as the dry signal.

I’m not sure what you mean, where are you placing your Looper X block within the signal chain? Depending on how you have your signal chain setup, you should not be hearing any dry-signal unless you want to etc.

Maybe you need to use a second row combined with a splitter/mixer etc?

Ok, can you give me an example of how to set up the looper so that no dry signal passes through? If it’s possible I’ll delete the thread!

Lets attack it another way, when you say dry signal are you referring to the DI or amp/drive but no FX etc?

Hypothetically, let’s assume you meant dry = no FX, in that case you could add a splitter to another row after your amp/drives etc., in that new row you could add the looper and set that rows output to wherever you needed.

Yeah, I don‘t mean no FX but DI signal. Let’s make it a very easy example in where I only use the Quad Cortex as a looper with no other blocks on the grid - is it possible to only have the loop signal on an output (so for example when I record a loop I don‘t hear a signal until I finish the record and the loop playback begins)?

I think I am understanding now (I hope :grinning:)
There would be no way currently to ‘not’ hear a signal until the looper playback begins.
I’m interested in what your use case would be for that?

This is theoretically possible today with MIDI, but not on the device itself with the current params/UI of the looper.

For example, you could setup scenes with a gain block after the looper or just muting the output block for the row the looper is on and then send a MIDI message to toggle to that scene and then engage record on the looper. And then for your “play” stomp, switch to a scene where the audio passes, and send the play command for the looper.

Yes, it requires a MIDI controller, but it would get you there today. I think part of the problem with implementing something like this on the device is how do you indicate you want to have a “silent” recording vs a normal one given the current available footswitches?

You could have an overall toggle that says “mute during record” (but not overdubs/punches) but that might not be what you want ALL the time but there’s no easy way to “toggle” that via the available stomps.

Ultimately, if you want something like “mute during record” for the looper as suggested, I’d probably delete this thread and make a new one with that title - it’s more likely to get votes as I think the current title and description is going to confuse people for what you’re really asking for.

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Well, I don’t want a mute during recording functionality but a simple dry-control. The looper is already pretty advanced but lacks this basic functionality. Which is surprising because all other time-based effects (ie Delay, Reverb, Freeze) actually already have one. I‘ve thought about potential workarounds like the one outlined above but ultimately they all have too many drawbacks for me to work. Regarding the title, I‘m not sure what‘s confusing about it but I‘m happy to change it to something else if that would make it easier to understand (apparently the word wet/dry in relation to a looper is not as common as it is with Delay/Reverb effects).

I would like to realize the following use case: My signal chain is Guitar —> Overdrive Pedals —> Lehle Parallel with QC in the loop —> Tube Amp. I also have an output from the QC to the FOH/Audio-Interface.
In my signal to the Tube Amp the analog dry signal never get’s digitized and the QC only adds Delay/Reverb/Freeze/Looper in a parallel loop. In the signal to the FOH/Audio-Interface the QC adds the dry signal to the Delay/Reverb/Freeze/Looper and runs it through amp sim and IRs. To be able to have all the effects of the QC in a parallel FX loop I need all of them to have a dry-control to be able to mute the dry signal (otherwise I‘ll have a double signal with phasing issues in my tube amp sound).