CME Widi Master with QC?

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Hi guys,

I think about using the CME Widi Master with the QC.
Has anyone set this up succesfully?
Does the QC provides power through midi-out?

Thx a lot for your support!
Heiko

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Hi, I read somewhere that the QC does not provide power via MIDI. But I have not tried.

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Read that too - but that was an old statement from 2021ā€¦
Hope that has been changed with one of the updates!

Iā€™m just trying to avoid to buy the wrong stuff :wink:

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I have a Widi master and it works. But you have to take over both plugs, which ended up being a dealbreaker for me.

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Thank you!
This helps a lot (as I will give it a try now) :blush::+1:t3:

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The QC does not provide power over MIDI unfortunately.

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Luckily, it does :wink: :+1:
Or let me put it that way: The ā€œWidi Masterā€ works totally fine at the QC.

IĀ“m quite happy that I now get the right delay tempo for each song automatically through the ā€œbandhelperā€ app thatĀ“s running on my iPad.
No tapping-in for every song! :slight_smile: :metal:

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But is it gettiing power from the QC via MIDI?

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ThereĀ“s no other power supply plugged in - so it needs to get the power through the midi-out socketā€¦

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Hi there

Revisiting this, can you confirm that the QC was able to power the WIDI master via the MIDI out DIN socket?

And tips on how to get this set up with the QC?
Thank you

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Hi @littlespaceman!
Yes, the WidiMaster is powered by the QC via midi-out (at least it all looks good ;).

All in all it was a pretty straight setup:

  1. Plugging in the WM
  2. Installing the WM App in my iPad
  3. Connecting both units

Fyi: CC-Changes and Midi-Clock is coming from the ā€œBandhelperā€ App through the WM.

IĀ“m currently having some issues with the midi-clock in the QC (see here: Midi clock issue (bpm) with "Widi Master"). Not sure if this might have sth to do with the MW powerā€¦!?

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Thanks for the reply. Iā€™ve got a blue light on the WIDI Master when plugged in to my QC but I canā€™t get it to receive any signals from my Airstep MIDI pedal at all.

Do I need the WIDI Master to be in Peripheral Mode or just leave it in Auto to connect automatically?

It doesnā€™t seem to want to accept any incoming midi commands - presumably I donā€™t need to have an app (such as BandHelper) open to make the WIDI Master work?

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I havenĀ“t changed that much on the WM (pretty much left it in standard-mode - see screenshot). Have you checked the settings on the ā€œairstepā€? As this ist the source of the midi signal, it needs to send properly.

For me it was the ā€œBandhelperā€ App that needs to be setup correctly before everything worked properly.

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Hi. Thanks for the reply

Yes Iā€™ve checked the Airstep; itā€™s definitely sending MIDI by Bluetooth as Iā€™ve checked that in both the BandHelper app and also MIDI Wrench, and I can see a message being sent by Bluetooth.

Iā€™ve managed to get it working twice with the QC having plugged and unplugged the Master randomly about 40 times, and yet most of the time it wonā€™t work at all.

My questions are;

  1. Should I see a turquoise light on the WIDI Master or the dark blue light? Does the Master have to be in Peripheral mode or automatic?

  2. Does the BandHelper app have to be open to use the Airstep with the Master or can I close that app? Itā€™s a major limitation if I have to keep it open all the time

  3. what do I do to set up within the BandHelper app? At the moment I have thisā€¦

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From what I read in the WIDI Master manual (which isnā€™t very helpful!) the connection should be automatic but as I say Iā€™ve randomly plugged it in and out and it works about 5% of the time, which is pretty annoying.

Any help / step by step advice gratefully received, thank you

ps: regarding the status lights, I get a slow flashing dark blue when I plug it in, then steady dark blue. Occasionally for no reason I get a steady turquoise, but thatā€™s not because Iā€™ve set it up that way, it just happens randomly

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Wondering if you ever got this going? Iā€™m having the same issuesā€¦ seeing the MIDI messages out through MIDI Wrench, but the QC isnā€™t receiving them

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Yes, Iā€™ve been using it regularly with great success.
My rig is slightly different though from what it was when I first posted here; I now use the QC and Widiflex dongle with StageTraxx 3. Doing it this way I have now got an automation system similar to the upcoming ā€˜Showcaseā€™ automation system in the new Helix Stadium (in other words I donā€™t have to use the QC U/I at all when playing live, which is great because some aspects of the U/I are awful, IMHO)

If you need help I suggest you contact Zhao, at CME, heā€™s extremely helpful.

For using the Widiflex with an Airstep, this is some advice he gave me;

ā€The WIDI Master should be able to connect to the Airstep automatically;

  1. The WIDI Master should be on ā€œAutoā€ role.

  2. The Airstep should be peripheral (Host mode OFF).

  3. Both WIDI Master and Airstep should be forgot from your iPhone Bluetooth settings page.

You can also contact Airstep support, they have WIDI sample to show you how to connect (we do not have Airstep sample here).

If you want to fix the connection between WIDI Master and Airstep, please use ā€œGroup Auto-Learnā€ function but not ā€œGroupā€ function: https://www.cme-pro.com/cme-introduces-new-widi-firmware-with-group-auto-learn-modeā€

Hope that helps