Chain of effects

Hi everyone. For most of my life I’ve been using guitar processors from manufacturers like Fractal, Boss and Valeton. When I had no money I had to use Guitar Rig. Usually guitar processors sounded better and were more convenient for performances because you could control the effects using your feet, but recently someone recommended me Neural DSP. I tried it and the first launch left a generally good impression, but also a few questions.

Looking at the screenshot of Fractal Axe FX-II, you can see that you can create completely different chains of effects there, and one preset can contain at least several amps and turn them on and off as needed. For example, you can add different amps and send them to the left and right channels to create an interesting stereo sound. There are also effects such as reverse delay, which can also be added to the chain of effects at least 10 pieces with different settings. For me, all this is an incredibly significant plus for using Fractal. What about Neural DSP? Is there such functionality here, if so, where can I find it?

The NDSP plug-ins have a fixed signal path. You can turn on and off the individual sections by right-clicking on the icons at the top of the GUI, but you can’t mix and match within the plug-in. You can, however, get around this by adding multiple instances of the plug-in to the same track in your DAW.

[For example, if you’re using an amp model in Archetype Gojira but prefer a cabinet model in the Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ suite plug-in, you can add both to a single track and then turn off the cab section in Gojira, etc.]

On the hardware side, the Quad Cortex is designed to do what you’re asking, with certain exceptions/limitations when it comes to signal splitting and mixing. The QC manual is up on the website. Give it a look and see if it will work for your needs.

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Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate the time you took to tell me more about the capabilities of Neural DSP.

I really want to decide for myself what is better Fractal AXE FX III or Something by Neural DSP. So I want to ask a few clarifying questions.

  1. Is Guitar Processor or plugin by Neural DSP able to implement the interface and effects chain like in Fractal AX FX III?

When I say effects chain I mean the variety of effects and the variety of their sequence as well as the number of types of effects themselves.

  1. Which sounds better Fractal or Neural DSP?

I don’t mean to sound rude but there are tons of videos on YouTube about how the Quad Cortex works. And comparison videos between Neural and Fractal.

The Quad Cortex manual is available on Neural DSP’s website.

Fractal is still king in terms of versatility (routing), MIDI implementation, number of effects, tweakability of amps and effects, and quality of time-based effects.

NDSP has a LONG way to go to even reach the foothills of Fractal mountain in these regards. That said, practically speaking, you can get gig/tour-ready tones out of the QC all day long.

Fractal is bottom of the heap when it comes to pitch-shifting (downtuning/transposition, I mean, as they have many great pitch shifting effects), so that might be a consideration. Also the Fractal UI leaves a lot to be desired.

So what “sounds better” is completely subjective these days, as all current modelers are used by pros on tour and in the studio.

Also of note, Sweetwater and Fractal have good return policies, so try them both!

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Creo que el rey ha sido destronado :wink:
llevo apenas dos meses con QC y tengo tanto fractal como line6 (episodio aparte) si usas bien los ajustes ya te digo yo que para el directo y para estudio de momento lo encuentro mejor, al menos yo, eso si llevo dos meses exprimiéndola bien para sacarle todo lo que puedo, desde mi experiencia de muchos años con equipos analógicos como en estos digitales.
“EL REY A MUERTO,VIVA EL REY” :rofl: :joy:

I understand that Neural DSP can have a lot of settings, which can also be flexible and allow you to achieve the desired sound. But there are some functions that are fundamentally important to me and they are currently available in devices from Fractal. I believe that this fact is enough to still consider Fractal to be the market leader, Since with the help of Fractal I can make even more different sounds, although for someone this may seem unnecessary. For me, the opportunity that Fractal gives is important and necessary, so at the moment, what I know, I can’t say that Neural DSP is the market leader although it can be a very interesting device and is enough for many

Stay with Fractal.
Unfortunately QC has severe phase problems especially when going for a parallel route resulting with comb filtering effect, plus there’s something strange about ambient effects mix control. It’s always more wet then you would expect using another device.

I mean, QC is great for capturing your own devices such as amp and pedals and it’s on the top list in that match, has a great format and maybe the best interface possible on the market, for everything else you have to take compromises.

For what QC is now, i would stay with Fractal

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verdaderamente no existe un líder único, todo depende de que sonido o que tipo de musica quieres tocar, te diré que yo por ejemplo practico simplemente con la guitarra sin estar conectada a nada, después, una vez consigo interpretar
la canción o tema, pruebo lo que hago usando apenas un amplificador un overdrive,a veces un chorus por supuesto un delay y un reverd y ahora ya tambien tengo el soldano (sin valvulas,claro) asi que con todo esto para mi es suficiente, me supongo que sera cuestion de gustos ; )

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