# Where do you put your fx loop and/or time based fx?

**URL:** <https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/where-do-you-put-your-fx-loop-and-or-time-based-fx/10928>\
**Category:** Quad Cortex\
**Created:** [May 5, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/where-do-you-put-your-fx-loop-and-or-time-based-fx/10928 "2023-05-05T07:36:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![ClevoPunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@ClevoPunk](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/ClevoPunk)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/where-do-you-put-your-fx-loop-and-or-time-based-fx/10928/1 "2023-05-05T07:36:20Z")

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Wondering where in the chain people put these, I had been putting them after the cab for a while because I never really thought about it but I started putting them between the amp and cab sim and I think it gets a better sound.

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![tomfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/tomfs/32/3645_2.png) [@tomfs](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/tomfs)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 9:14am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/where-do-you-put-your-fx-loop-and-or-time-based-fx/10928/2 "2023-05-05T09:14:23Z")

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Mine are all before the amp, except for one reverb and a loop between amp and cab.

I’ve put reverb before the amp for a long time just because I got sick of FX loops not working how I wanted then just got used to the sound. Reverb before amp distortion is definitely not a ‘normal’ sound that people want though.

I also use the FX loop as a send to my onstage cab because we can’t send from outputs 3/4 yet (can’t put them on the ends of rows due to the layout I have) and for an extra delay and looper, partly to cover the gap when switching between presets, but also it’s a PITA getting to the QC looper from scene mode as I have all my scenes filled. I might invest in one of the Disaster Area midi controllers at some point if the silence between presets is fixed.

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**Author:** ![DiffractionCircuit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/diffractioncircuit/32/3793_2.png) [@DiffractionCircuit](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/DiffractionCircuit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/where-do-you-put-your-fx-loop-and-or-time-based-fx/10928/3 "2023-05-05T12:32:32Z")

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Before I had a QC, I used my tube amp’s effects loop for modulation and time-based effects via 4-cable method, obviously before running out to my cab.

Likewise in the QC, I run my modulation and delays after the Amp block and before the Cab block. I don’t think there’s much of a difference before or after the cab, but it’s what I’m used to. Also, I typically run EQ and SSL compressor blocks after the cab to tighten everything up before sending out to FOH.