# Using a volume pedal... noobie question **URL:** \ **Category:** Quad Cortex\ **Created:** [October 7, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763 "2021-10-07T09:06:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WaterGuitar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3d9bf3/32.png) [@WaterGuitar](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/WaterGuitar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/1 "2021-10-07T09:06:29Z")
Just received my QC and I’m very happy. Wow! Beautiful sounds! I’m still searching for a way to use an expression pedal as a volume pedal. In most of my old Roland multi effects, I could insert a volume pedal in various places in the chain. I don’t find this functionality in the QC. I did find a work around… I put a patch cord between the send and receive of effects loop 1. Then I map the pedal to the send. There must be a better way. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/2 "2021-10-07T16:15:36Z")
You would simply add a gain block wherever you choose and assign your EP to that block for controlling volume. ---
**Author:** ![WaterGuitar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3d9bf3/32.png) [@WaterGuitar](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/WaterGuitar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/3 "2021-10-08T07:38:31Z")
Thanks! That worked. Now I’m wishing for a way to map the curve of the volume pedal. Wouldn’t it be cool to be able to choose from different curves? Just dreaming. ---
**Author:** ![Thembones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Thembones](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Thembones)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/4 "2021-10-08T12:26:45Z")
Don’t forget to set the gain block to 50% when assigned to volume or you get a boost not just volume ---
**Author:** ![leon0715](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c37758/32.png) [@leon0715](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/leon0715)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 8:08am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/5 "2021-10-12T08:08:17Z")
The lack of a dedicated volume pedal is indeed a headache. The curve of the volume pedal should be non-linear. ---
**Author:** ![WaterGuitar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3d9bf3/32.png) [@WaterGuitar](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/WaterGuitar)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/6 "2021-10-12T09:06:53Z")
Thanks Leon… that’s what I’m thinking… the more I use the wonderful QC, the more I’m seeking ways to change the volume pedal curves. ---
**Author:** ![leon0715](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c37758/32.png) [@leon0715](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/leon0715)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/7 "2022-06-13T02:41:29Z")
Why not add neuraldsp to such a simple demand as the volume pedal module? ---
**Author:** ![bwade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@bwade](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/bwade)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/8 "2022-07-28T03:43:58Z")
Ya thats what i do but it is a work around. I was surprised there wasn’t a simple volume pedal in the choices and think it’s an oversight. To use the gain block you have to set the max at 50% to get a unity gain output (otherwise you end up with a 20db boost)…I think when doing that you end up loosing 1/2 of the sweep of your expression pedal…I just wrote to the tech dept to see if there’s any other way to do it as like I said before, it’s limiting…Brett ---
**Author:** ![WaterGuitar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3d9bf3/32.png) [@WaterGuitar](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/WaterGuitar)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/9 "2022-07-28T09:19:46Z")
Yeah, it works, but there is a small delay. Not sure why they can’t figure it out. Going back and forth with Roland gear, the difference is obvious. Volume pedal needs to be instantaneous. QC has yet to fix this. ---
**Author:** ![SlightGuitar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@SlightGuitar](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/SlightGuitar)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/10 "2022-08-11T16:53:27Z")
There is a MUCH better way to use a volume pedal which doesn’t require hacky gain/volume pedal blocks to be added to the chain. All you need to do is setup your output lanes to the be volume controlled by the expression pedal. To do this: 1. Just press and hold on the lane output (ie. MultiOut, or whatever) until the volume/pan/mute control box pops up. 2. Select the 3 dots on the far left on the control box popup 3. Select “Assign Expression Pedal” and assign the expression pedal you want and setup your volume pedal min and max as needed. ---
**Author:** ![HonestOpinion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/honestopinion/32/3398_2.png) [@HonestOpinion](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/HonestOpinion)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/11 "2022-08-11T18:30:38Z")
Excellent tip, thanks! That absolutely comes in handy if you run the volume at the very end of your chain. Perfect for when you only want to change the volume with little impact to the tone other than some potentially negligible Fletcher-Munson. I prefer mine to be towards the end of my signal chain but _before_ the delay/reverb blocks so that when I ratchet down the volume pedal to heel down (zero volume) it does not cut off the trails. Some people like to run the volume pedal before the distortion, amp, or other effect blocks, where it acts more like the volume pot on your guitar and can change the tone downstream. I think the volume block is still going to remain in play for a lot of users. ---
**Author:** ![phowell3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@phowell3](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/phowell3)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/using-a-volume-pedal-noobie-question/5763/12 "2024-05-03T18:21:25Z")
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