# Paging Hybrid Mode

**URL:** <https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324>\
**Category:** Feature Requests\
**Created:** [September 13, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324 "2024-09-13T13:01:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![jamsden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/jamsden/32/1607_2.png) [@jamsden](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/jamsden)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/1 "2024-09-13T13:01:01Z")

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When switching QC to hybrid mode (Preset+Scene or Scene+Stomp) the top row gets 4 of the switches from one group and the bottom row gets 4 switches from another group. For example if you use hybrid model Stomp+Scene, the top row of switches are stomp A, B C and D, and the bottom row are scene A, B, C, and D.

This works great, but does not give you access to the other 4 stomp switches and the other 4 scenes.

What I would like to see is a hybrid page mode that switches between stomp/scene A, B, C and D, and stomp/scene E, F, G and H. This extra hybrid page could be added or removed using the modes configuration page. Preset/scene should have a similar 2nd page.

This would give access to all switch capabilities in hybrid mode.

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**Author:** ![SelfTitledLP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@SelfTitledLP](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/SelfTitledLP)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/2 "2024-09-13T13:21:25Z")

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If they even allowed the 8 stomps/8 switches to be accessed via midi that would be a game changer

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**Author:** ![Steviek19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Steviek19](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Steviek19)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/3 "2024-09-13T15:13:45Z")

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Did you mean 8 stomps/8 scenes? Because I’m doing this now with MIDI.

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**Author:** ![SelfTitledLP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@SelfTitledLP](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/SelfTitledLP)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/4 "2024-09-13T15:27:36Z")

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All at the same time?

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**Author:** ![Steviek19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Steviek19](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Steviek19)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/5 "2024-09-13T17:44:41Z")

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I think I see what you’re saying now. I use a small MIDI controller (MC3) to flip back and forth between scenes and stomps.

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**Author:** ![jamsden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/jamsden/32/1607_2.png) [@jamsden](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/jamsden)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/6 "2024-09-13T18:43:40Z")

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I mean in hybrid mode, there would be 2 mode pages for Stomp+Scene. One mode page would have scenes A through D and stomps A through D. The other mode page would have scenes E through H and stomps E through H. This way I can get access to all stomp and scenes while in hybrid mode.

Now why do this instead of just switching between stomp and scene modes to get all the switches? Its because hybrid mode lets you mix scenes with stomps so the bottom row selects one of 4 scenes, and the top row gives up to 4 stomps that can be turn off or on while in any scene. This gives more control over more parameters without having to change mode as often.

Also, I do use an MC8 to control all 8 scenes while QC is in stomp mode to control bypass on 8 effects. This is fine. But the hybrid mode provides the flexibility to the 1/2 the scenes and 1/2 the stomps on QC alone without having to connect an MC8. That useful too if I want to use QC by itself.

The mode page approach would let you put the scenes and stomps you use the most on the first page, and then flip the page to access the lesser use scenes and stomps.

You could use an MC8 to provide the other 4 scenes and 4 stomps to get more direct access without having to do the page switch. But this didn’t work. There appears to be a bug where the CC#39 though CC#42 to control stomp bypass duplicate the scene selections instead of doing a stomp bypass (as described in the manual). Bug submitted.

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**Author:** ![DiffractionCircuit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/diffractioncircuit/32/3793_2.png) [@DiffractionCircuit](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/DiffractionCircuit)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/7 "2024-09-13T18:51:08Z")

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Other “Page 2” requests exist…

> [@Add a 'Page 2' to Hybrid Mode](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/add-a-page-2-to-hybrid-mode/9777):
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> Great to have Hybrid Mode at last, but the limit of only 4 Scenes, Stomps etc is a real drawback. What about adding a ‘Page 2’ to Hybrid Mode - selected by perhaps a long press of one of the Preset/Bank change buttons. In the Page 2 you would have the other 4 switches in whatever Hybrid combination you have chosen, to replace the 4 you lose by using Hybrid Mode in the first place.

> [@Scene/Stomp Hybrid Mode with Stomp Mode](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/scene-stomp-hybrid-mode-with-stomp-mode/9625):
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> I would love to see the option to have mode 1 be hybrid with scenes on top, stomps on bottom (no problem with 2.0, thanks NDSP!) and have mode 2 be stomp mode with 8 more stomps (not the same bottom 4 as the hybrid mode setup on mode 1). This would really allow extreme flexibility within 1 preset in order to avoid drops in signal and be able to use the full DSP live and spontaneously.

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**Author:** ![Ejay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ejay](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Ejay)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/paging-hybrid-mode/15324/8 "2024-09-14T08:51:49Z")

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I’d rather see the “hidden ones “ accessible via long press or 2nd click tbh.  
If it’s a stomp row: a long press’s on A toggles E.  
If it’s a scene row…a 2nd click on scene A triggers E, a 3rd click toggles back to A
