# Output volume

**URL:** <https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231>\
**Category:** Quad Cortex\
**Created:** [April 12, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231 "2021-04-12T11:41:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![March](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@March](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/March)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/1 "2021-04-12T11:41:20Z")

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Hi All,

I have 2 questions:  
1-Am I the only one?  
2-Is this normal, or did I change something without knowing?

Now, context:  
normally when I make a chain, I go from input 1 to output 1/2 95% of the time, but I realized yesterday that if I choose output 3/4, it is much more louder in my headphones monitor.

Context #2: Nothing is actually plugged in any output, so it might only affect the monitoring (?) in which case I could file a bug.

Or is it some sort of hardware limitation between TRS jacks and XLRs ?

Cheers

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**Author:** ![Elric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/elric/32/1704_2.png) [@Elric](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Elric)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/2 "2021-04-18T15:49:29Z")

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Have you tried swiping downward to get the I/O page and checked out the levels of the outputs?

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**Author:** ![March](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@March](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/March)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/3 "2021-04-18T17:07:39Z")

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I did, they were all to default

did you try and got similar results?

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**Author:** ![richard.wasserman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@richard.wasserman](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/richard.wasserman)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/4 "2021-04-19T13:14:01Z")

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I just tried mine and get the same…3/4 are louder to the headphones than 1/2. All outputs set the same 0dB

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**Author:** ![March](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@March](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/March)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/5 "2021-04-19T13:31:59Z")

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do you think I should file in a bug?  
Is the sound louder if you are actually plugged into monitor or powered speaker?

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**Author:** ![Elric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/elric/32/1704_2.png) [@Elric](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/Elric)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/6 "2021-04-19T17:36:57Z")

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I tried it. If you use 1/2 and then switch a chain to 3/4 it sounds louder through the headphones. If you then swipe down to the I/O page tap on the headphone output you will see it will have level controls for outputs 3/4 as well as the headphone out and if you have bumped up the HP level the 3/4 level will be bumped up by the same amount (mine was 6db).

If you reset this dial to zero (just the one for 3/4 on the headphones page) it will work as expected thereafter (i.e. the volumes will be the same for other presets). It’s probably a minor bug of some sort that causes the output to track the HP level on first switch… but once you adjust it on your unit it will be fixed.

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**Author:** ![March](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@March](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/March)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/7 "2021-04-20T12:57:05Z")

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I confirm it is weird that the output was set higher in the headphone for them, I had no touch anything.

CASE CLOSE

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**Author:** ![EL84\_Abuser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/el84_abuser/32/1782_2.png) [@EL84\_Abuser](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/EL84_Abuser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/8 "2021-04-20T15:30:01Z")

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Neural said this is due to the balanced outs having higher headroom than the unbalanced ones.  
Not a bug.

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**Author:** ![jtkung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e7dd6/32.png) [@jtkung](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/jtkung)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/output-volume/4231/9 "2022-10-04T13:15:37Z")

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Just to clarify – XLR OUT 1/2 are balanced outputs while OUT 3/4 can be balanced or unbalanced, depending on what cable you are using. The spec in the manual shows:

OUT 1/2 XLR: Max Output Level: +9.5dBu  
OUT 3/4 TRS: Max Output Level: +15.5dBu balanced, +9.5dBu unbalanced

This is why some people see the XLRs as lower output than the TRS when using balanced cables.
