# Not enough CPU, except there is enough

**URL:** <https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [August 12, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956 "2024-08-12T14:02:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/1 "2024-08-12T14:02:35Z")

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As you can see, there should be plenty of room for more blocks in row 1, 2 and 4. Yet, I can’t put any block anywhere. The pitch-block in row 1 is already not possible anymore.

 ![Screenshot 2024-08-10 at 18.49.25](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/neuraldsp/original/2X/0/0978f6b1dbcdde41c7dc36e62e03eb6feb1cab3f.png)

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**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/2 "2024-08-12T17:10:02Z")

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I would recommend that you utilize all cores and distribute your preset(s) with heavy CPU blocks among all rows etc.

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/3 "2024-08-12T18:03:09Z")

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Yeah, but row 1 and 2 are barely used at all yet I can’t put another block in row 1 or 2. That’s not normal.

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**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/4 "2024-08-12T18:13:43Z")

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Row 3 is full and running heavy CPU blocks (ie. time based effects). The CPU usage below is a bit misleading as it shows total usage. Once you utilize all rows, you will distribute your CPU load across all DSP cores.

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/5 "2024-08-12T20:52:06Z")

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But row 3 doesn’t use core 1 and 2. And those two are not under heavy use at all. So why can’t I use them?

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**Author:** ![xush](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/xush/32/5100_2.png) [@xush](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/xush)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/6 "2024-08-12T21:15:17Z")

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can you upload this preset to the Cloud so we can dig in and see what’s up under the hood? There’s not much more we can offer based on the picture- those amps are obviously sucking up a LOT of power, but we might be able to rearrange things a little more efficiently. Pitch-shifters are also **very** DSP-hungry

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/7 "2024-08-12T23:01:02Z")

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I appreciate the offer. But I am not seeking help here. I have been making a lot of presets myself and tried out even more. I also checked the diagnosis of the cores and it proves my point. Also I have been using this preset for quite some time now, and with the exact same blocks + more in the past.  
This clearly is a bug which I wanted to report. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![BenM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/benm/32/3468_2.png) [@BenM](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/BenM)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/8 "2024-08-13T07:06:21Z")

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Perhaps that Cortex Control is miscalculating the DSP load ? Did you try to add a block via the QC directly ?

(In CoCo 1.1 , I had a ‘not enough dsp’ message a couple of times, even with very simple presets - but ALL the blocks in ALL the categories were greyed out , whereas in your case it seems to be more specific to certain kind of blocks, but perhaps the problem has the same underlying source ?)

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**Author:** ![derdoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@derdoe](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/derdoe)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/9 "2024-08-13T09:46:23Z")

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I tried to reproduce this from the info in your screenshot and tried to use blocks with equal or higher DSP load.  
No problem here. I’m at 54% CPU and can still add more blocks to the first, second or fourth row.

 ![Screenshot 2024-08-13 113742](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/neuraldsp/original/2X/7/7014713e2528eca5c5176425f2260777e91ef932.png)

Maybe you’ve found some special constellation leading to a bug. But without enough information to reproduce it, the devs will probably have a hard time fixing it.

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/10 "2024-08-13T12:43:57Z")

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Yes, you are right. Cortex Control just doesn’t work anymore at all. Can’t add any blocks anywhere now. On the QC itself no problem.

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**Author:** ![BenM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/benm/32/3468_2.png) [@BenM](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/BenM)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/11 "2024-08-13T12:59:29Z")

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Can you submit a bug report to [support@neuraldsp.com](mailto:support@neuraldsp.com) ?

It did not had to opportunity to do so ! and since you have a screenshot showing to problem, they could investigate more easily.

thanks.

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/12 "2024-08-13T13:31:36Z")

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Isn’t this thread a bug report?

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**Author:** ![BenM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/benm/32/3468_2.png) [@BenM](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/BenM)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/13 "2024-08-13T14:16:51Z")

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Yes, but from my experience I submitted a ‘Bug Report’ here for a bug in Cortex Control back in November 2023 , but the bug is still present in CoCo 1.1 released 31th July.

Last week I emailed support to ask if my request has been taken into account , and only after several mails the support told me that the dev team in now aware of this bug and it will be fixed ‘soon’ …

🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/14 "2024-08-13T14:25:05Z")

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The Unity forum itself is mainly for users to interact and discuss issues, likes and related. If you need NDSP support and assume you have a bug, the best course of action is to email [support@neuraldsp.com](mailto:support@neuraldsp.com) so that they can log your issue(s) and hopefully provide resolution.

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**Author:** ![DavidRSTV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/davidrstv/32/4347_2.png) [@DavidRSTV](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/DavidRSTV)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/15 "2024-08-13T15:24:46Z")

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If actually no one of NDSP is looking into the stuff posted in here, the “Bug Reports” and “Feature Request” categories should be deleted to be honest (not selectable for the creation of new posts / threads)… There presence gives the impression, that NDSP gets and uses the information posted with those flags (like its the case in other software related bug tracking ‘forums’)

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/16 "2024-08-13T15:37:39Z")

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So this is the official NDSP forum, yet NDSP doesn’t monitor bug reports and feature requests? What does that remind me of again… 😃

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/neuraldsp/original/2X/a/aa993ebb34cabf5753c1943c9ccd673a5f365a4b.jpeg "you can talk to our complaint department") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk8dFcopN1c)

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**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/17 "2024-08-13T15:52:33Z")

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@mgorn Don’t believe everything that is posted online 🙂 NDSP does monitor and has implemented feature requests based on priority in the past. Also if a bug is wide spread, NDSP has been known to interact. One off issues like yours are always better served following the support process for faster resolution. Also, this is one of the official forums, there is Facebook and Discord forums as well etc.

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**Author:** ![xush](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/unity.neuraldsp.com/xush/32/5100_2.png) [@xush](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/xush)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/18 "2024-08-13T16:29:09Z")

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it’s not that they don’t read it or take the votes into account, it’s that they don’t respond here (often).  
Looking back over the resolved feature requests shows that they do monitor and implement the most popular ones where possible.  
Just don’t expect lengthy chats or responses here. They post the Dev updates, and that’s about it.  
You need to email Support directly if you require a conversation with an official rep

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**Author:** ![mgorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@mgorn](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/mgorn)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/19 "2024-08-14T19:43:46Z")

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Certainly believing everything that you read would be dumb. However, looking through the bug reports and feature requests paints a very grimm picture. Many bug reports are being shut down, which I don’t get, if the purpose of this forum is to share experience with other users.  
And the top 10 feature requests are all at least 2 years old, most 3+ years. And there are some as simple as adding a metronome. That doesn’t sound to me as if NDSP looks into these and/or cares about them.

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**Author:** ![MP\_Mod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@MP\_Mod](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/u/MP_Mod)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/t/not-enough-cpu-except-there-is-enough/14956/20 "2024-08-15T13:51:07Z")

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NDSP certainly looks at the feature requests and has implemented based on priority in the past.  
Bug reports are closed when resolved etc.  
[Resolved Feature Requests - Neural DSP](https://unity.neuraldsp.com/c/quad-cortex/resolved-feature-requests/28)

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